1 00:03:38,789 --> 00:00:22,280 [Music] 2 00:03:38,799 --> 00:03:44,170 so 3 00:04:28,310 --> 00:03:56,210 [Music] 4 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:31,110 greetings and salutations old friends 5 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:33,120 and hopefully some new friends and 6 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:35,759 welcome to truth seekers a special 7 00:04:40,469 --> 00:04:37,919 weekend edition that's right you guys 8 00:04:42,230 --> 00:04:40,479 are making me work overtime but i 9 00:04:44,469 --> 00:04:42,240 wouldn't have it any other way because 10 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:44,479 tonight we get to go further down a 11 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:46,479 rabbit hole that first started some time 12 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:47,360 ago 13 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:53,280 air force officer and defense 14 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:56,639 intelligence agency employee started 15 00:05:02,390 --> 00:04:58,639 telling some incredible stories about 16 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:02,400 contact with alien beings that she had 17 00:05:07,749 --> 00:05:05,840 inside an apparent secret alien base 18 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:07,759 inside a mountain 19 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:09,520 she 20 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:12,240 even went as far as having a press 21 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:14,800 conference held at the washington 22 00:05:19,270 --> 00:05:17,360 memorial i'm sorry the lincoln memorial 23 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:19,280 in washington dc 24 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:22,240 publicly telling stories of 25 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:26,000 meeting aliens inside a secret base 26 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:28,720 throughout her uh 27 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:31,440 telling of these stories she mentioned 28 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:33,440 the people who actually owned the 29 00:05:39,749 --> 00:05:36,240 mountain where she was brought to 30 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:39,759 which were code named wayne and trisha 31 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:41,680 now if you follow this story along with 32 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:44,320 me you'll know that i tried my very best 33 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:46,960 to locate these people 34 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:48,800 first i decided that 35 00:05:51,909 --> 00:05:50,560 this woman was making up the entire 36 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:51,919 story and these people were her 37 00:05:55,749 --> 00:05:53,520 imaginary friends 38 00:05:58,550 --> 00:05:55,759 later finding out no these were real 39 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:58,560 people the wayne and trisha that she 40 00:06:00,950 --> 00:06:00,000 mentioned 41 00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:00,960 now 42 00:06:04,309 --> 00:06:02,800 there's a uh uh 43 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:04,319 you know the story gets complicated 44 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:06,240 because we believe that we found the 45 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:08,080 mountain we believed that we found the 46 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:11,039 wayne and anjali was very deceptive 47 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:14,000 and lied to me led me to believe that we 48 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:16,720 had indeed located the right wayne who 49 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,240 owned the mountain and the right 50 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:20,400 mountain then some other people got 51 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:23,120 involved and things got crazy and you 52 00:06:26,870 --> 00:06:24,960 can see some of the previous streams 53 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:26,880 that we have done on this story 54 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:29,440 interviewing both anjali then having a 55 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:31,199 panel show 56 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:34,319 to discuss why the expedition originally 57 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:36,800 ashley in her press conference promised 58 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:39,680 that she was collecting a 59 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:44,080 a team of investigators scientists etc 60 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:46,000 to go back to the mountain and get the 61 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:48,240 physical proof of the aliens that was 62 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:50,479 cancelled and there has been all this 63 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:52,479 drama back and forth people have even 64 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:53,759 blamed me 65 00:07:00,070 --> 00:06:56,800 for uh the expedition getting cancelled 66 00:07:01,510 --> 00:07:00,080 i don't believe that's the case but 67 00:07:04,469 --> 00:07:01,520 recently 68 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:04,479 finally we located what is absolutely 69 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:06,800 positively the right quote 70 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:09,520 wayne and trisha unquote that's not 71 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:11,840 their real names um 72 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:15,120 i gave him the option and uh i'm kind of 73 00:07:18,710 --> 00:07:16,960 impressed he's a very brave guy because 74 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:18,720 he's decided he's going to use his real 75 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:19,919 name tonight 76 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:20,880 um 77 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:22,639 concerned that other people will find 78 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:24,960 him because of the 9-1-1 call because of 79 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:26,560 other reasons 80 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:29,120 um so for the first time 81 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:32,400 we are gonna get to hear from the actual 82 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:34,000 wayne 83 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:36,080 in anjali stories 84 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:38,479 and of course i was incredibly 85 00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:40,880 interested in hearing if he would 86 00:07:45,749 --> 00:07:42,720 confirm or deny 87 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:45,759 her telling of the events 88 00:07:51,589 --> 00:07:48,240 so for the first time ever tonight 89 00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:51,599 wayne speaks friends and we are bringing 90 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:54,240 it to you in a truth seekers exclusive 91 00:07:59,830 --> 00:07:57,120 story my thanks to charlie wiser and 92 00:08:02,469 --> 00:07:59,840 james a conrad and others uh for helping 93 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:02,479 to make this possible and of course my 94 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:04,800 thanks to uh you know i think it's very 95 00:08:08,869 --> 00:08:07,120 brave what this guy is doing because 96 00:08:10,230 --> 00:08:08,879 this could turn into a circus very 97 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:10,240 quickly 98 00:08:13,029 --> 00:08:12,160 and uh you know i hope that doesn't 99 00:08:15,510 --> 00:08:13,039 happen 100 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:15,520 um but i you know i really wanted to 101 00:08:20,309 --> 00:08:17,759 give him an opportunity to tell 102 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:20,319 the story from his perspective 103 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:21,599 and we'll get 104 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:23,759 i believe after tonight we will get 105 00:08:28,710 --> 00:08:26,400 closer to the actual and real truth 106 00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:28,720 about anjali and her 107 00:08:32,550 --> 00:08:29,759 um 108 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:32,560 alien experiences so without further ado 109 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:35,120 let's bring in our very special guest 110 00:08:38,790 --> 00:08:36,719 wayne 111 00:08:41,430 --> 00:08:38,800 hey how you doing 112 00:08:43,670 --> 00:08:41,440 i i can call you brian now right here 113 00:08:45,670 --> 00:08:43,680 you can okay 114 00:08:48,070 --> 00:08:45,680 great well thanks for doing this tonight 115 00:08:50,310 --> 00:08:48,080 i'm very happy that i get to bring the 116 00:08:51,990 --> 00:08:50,320 public your side of the story 117 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:52,000 i don't know where to begin but i 118 00:08:55,670 --> 00:08:52,959 thought 119 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:55,680 that we could begin with the beginning 120 00:08:58,790 --> 00:08:57,839 how did you meet this woman how did you 121 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:58,800 end up 122 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:01,760 you know inviting her back to your home 123 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:03,519 and um 124 00:09:08,870 --> 00:09:06,000 and and let's take it from there right 125 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:08,880 okay uh well we met we met at a coffee 126 00:09:12,710 --> 00:09:10,160 shop 127 00:09:15,110 --> 00:09:12,720 so that part's true 128 00:09:16,949 --> 00:09:15,120 yeah we're at a coffee shop um 129 00:09:19,269 --> 00:09:16,959 this coffee shop is kind of set up like 130 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:19,279 a living room kind of you know it's it's 131 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:21,440 you know at the time anyway of that 132 00:09:23,990 --> 00:09:22,399 place 133 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:24,000 uh 134 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:25,839 i haven't been there in a long time i 135 00:09:28,949 --> 00:09:27,360 love places there's a few places like 136 00:09:30,550 --> 00:09:28,959 that in philly you just go in you get 137 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:30,560 your drink you hang out with friends 138 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:31,360 right 139 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:33,600 laid back couches you know what i mean 140 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:35,519 so you're kind of intimate in this place 141 00:09:39,509 --> 00:09:37,920 so you know whoever is laying around the 142 00:09:40,630 --> 00:09:39,519 circle is part of the conversation you 143 00:09:42,070 --> 00:09:40,640 know what i mean 144 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:42,080 so 145 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:43,519 um 146 00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:45,920 i used to wear this medicine bag around 147 00:09:50,949 --> 00:09:48,880 my neck for about five years when i was 148 00:09:52,790 --> 00:09:50,959 fighting cancer can you hold that up one 149 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:52,800 more time i'm gonna i'm gonna solo you 150 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:54,800 so everybody can see that 151 00:10:02,630 --> 00:09:56,959 interesting so you you believe that's 152 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:05,509 um you know it could be it i think it i 153 00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:06,800 think the conversation might have 154 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:09,200 started with health i'm you know i don't 155 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:10,480 remember just 156 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:13,279 walking into a coffee shop and 157 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:15,120 immediately talking about aliens on the 158 00:10:17,590 --> 00:10:16,560 mountain you know so 159 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:17,600 uh 160 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:18,399 i i 161 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:21,120 i would say it started with health and i 162 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:23,360 was the guy that used to like to 163 00:10:30,150 --> 00:10:26,720 uh dose everybody you know because 164 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:30,160 you're my kind of friend brian 165 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:33,120 you know what i mean so you know so uh 166 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:34,000 uh 167 00:10:38,069 --> 00:10:36,560 we i believe i dosed her in the coffee 168 00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:38,079 shop 169 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:39,200 along with 170 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:41,440 every anybody that wanted any 171 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:43,200 okay just to be clear though but when 172 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:44,959 when you say dost because you know my 173 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:47,279 original theory was that she got dosed 174 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:49,120 with some sort of hallucinogen but you 175 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:50,880 you dosed her with 176 00:10:58,710 --> 00:10:54,720 thc concentrate uh cannabis oil right 177 00:11:01,590 --> 00:10:58,720 correct yes cannabis oil thc yes 178 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:01,600 um and and you know if you're not used 179 00:11:06,389 --> 00:11:04,399 to this stuff it can be strong 180 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:06,399 if you have 181 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:08,320 i've found out through the years if you 182 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:10,800 if you're on any kind of pharmaceutical 183 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:13,360 drugs and you mix this with that it can 184 00:11:18,310 --> 00:11:16,320 be it can have a different effect 185 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:18,320 i'm not saying that that's any the case 186 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:19,680 this is these are just things that i 187 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:20,640 know 188 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:22,480 um 189 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:25,120 that i've that i've learned to 190 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:27,440 people you know i mean learn by people's 191 00:11:31,509 --> 00:11:29,760 stories you know so yeah i've heard that 192 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:31,519 as well yeah i've heard that if you're 193 00:11:34,630 --> 00:11:33,120 on any kind of especially if you're on 194 00:11:36,389 --> 00:11:34,640 any kind of uh 195 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:36,399 um 196 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:38,480 psychological medication like the 197 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:41,279 depression or anxiety it could it could 198 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:42,720 interfere with that 199 00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:44,000 definitely enhance something you know 200 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:46,800 what i mean it's a it's a 201 00:11:52,790 --> 00:11:50,880 it does bring things out for sure um 202 00:11:54,550 --> 00:11:52,800 yeah and somebody's asking in live chat 203 00:11:56,310 --> 00:11:54,560 did she did she know she was getting 204 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:56,320 dosed you didn't like slip it in her 205 00:12:00,710 --> 00:11:59,040 drink you you oh no no absolutely she 206 00:12:03,269 --> 00:12:00,720 knew she was taking it right 207 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:03,279 oh no yeah it was yeah for sure 208 00:12:06,230 --> 00:12:04,880 you have to actually eat it you have to 209 00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:06,240 you know 210 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:07,680 um 211 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:10,560 thanks mr db cooper 212 00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:11,760 just so you know people are throwing 213 00:12:14,389 --> 00:12:12,959 money at me and i don't want to 214 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:14,399 interrupt the conversation but i want to 215 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:16,320 acknowledge i want to acknowledge the 216 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:17,680 people that are supporting the show 217 00:12:23,350 --> 00:12:19,920 everybody's he said i would have paid 218 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:23,360 pay-per-view for this right 219 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:25,440 so 220 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:28,959 coffee shop you're having a conversation 221 00:12:33,030 --> 00:12:30,880 you start talking about the cannabis oil 222 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:33,040 and she takes a dose of it right we 223 00:12:36,550 --> 00:12:34,959 probably all did around the circle who 224 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:36,560 knows you know because and this coffee 225 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:38,320 shop serves wine by the way so some of 226 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:40,000 us were drinking alcohol and some 227 00:12:43,269 --> 00:12:41,440 weren't 228 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:43,279 so i don't know who was and who wasn't 229 00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:44,480 really 230 00:12:49,829 --> 00:12:46,480 um 231 00:12:52,389 --> 00:12:49,839 and then soon after that we came back up 232 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:52,399 to my place and and 233 00:12:57,030 --> 00:12:54,160 and i used to invite people you know i 234 00:12:59,430 --> 00:12:57,040 was a little you know i used to be a lot 235 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:59,440 i was friendly for you know and i would 236 00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:00,880 and i didn't always think either i'll 237 00:13:03,829 --> 00:13:02,720 just tell you that like the radiation 238 00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:03,839 that i took 239 00:13:08,470 --> 00:13:06,880 kind of zapped my brain for a while so 240 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:08,480 you know i did yeah but i think that's 241 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:10,240 okay so you're like happy to be alive 242 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:11,920 and you meet new people you socialize 243 00:13:15,670 --> 00:13:13,760 and say hey come and hang out at our 244 00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:15,680 house you know yeah it was kind of like 245 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:16,880 well then we were talking we were 246 00:13:20,069 --> 00:13:18,480 talking about aliens in the coffee shop 247 00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:20,079 so that's kind of what brought her 248 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:22,959 that's that's that story did come up 249 00:13:26,470 --> 00:13:25,680 like the the conversation of aliens came 250 00:13:29,030 --> 00:13:26,480 up 251 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:29,040 and that's probably what we were 252 00:13:32,790 --> 00:13:30,800 brought her up here for just to show her 253 00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:32,800 the mountain and all i was saying all we 254 00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:34,399 were saying is there's alien sightings 255 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:36,639 on our mountain in the 60s 256 00:13:40,389 --> 00:13:38,399 and there's a book out there 257 00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:40,399 yeah i tried to find the book i have to 258 00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:41,920 i have to reach out to a friend of mine 259 00:13:46,069 --> 00:13:44,240 who's like a walking encyclopedia of ufo 260 00:13:48,069 --> 00:13:46,079 stuff he would know 261 00:13:49,670 --> 00:13:48,079 apparently yes apparently there is a 262 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:49,680 book that uh 263 00:13:55,110 --> 00:13:52,560 that details somebody seeing or 264 00:13:57,189 --> 00:13:55,120 experiencing or meeting aliens right in 265 00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:57,199 that area in that mountain so you were 266 00:14:01,829 --> 00:13:59,680 talking to her about the history of 267 00:14:03,829 --> 00:14:01,839 there may be some and there's sometimes 268 00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:03,839 there's ufo sightings in that area and 269 00:14:07,509 --> 00:14:05,519 things like that right 270 00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:07,519 yes yes and that's and that's all it 271 00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:13,590 when we all came up here let's see if i 272 00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:15,440 can right remember this right she had a 273 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:18,800 male friend with her but he didn't come 274 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:21,040 she drove herself 275 00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:27,670 other other friends came up as well that 276 00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:29,760 are you know there that our friends you 277 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:32,240 know that stay here sometimes 278 00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:33,839 they were they were in their car so 279 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:36,160 anyway we all came up 280 00:14:40,710 --> 00:14:38,320 and um 281 00:14:42,829 --> 00:14:40,720 proceeded to you know have some more 282 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:42,839 cannabis oil 283 00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:45,360 and oh no 284 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:47,040 well you know why not now you're home 285 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:48,480 yeah i know i i don't think there's 286 00:14:52,310 --> 00:14:50,320 anything wrong with it i'm not i'm just 287 00:14:54,389 --> 00:14:52,320 saying it's yeah so she got she so she 288 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:54,399 takes one dose at the coffee shop drives 289 00:14:58,069 --> 00:14:56,480 to your house and then i don't know 290 00:14:59,910 --> 00:14:58,079 i don't know if she did a second or not 291 00:15:01,670 --> 00:14:59,920 to be up but maybe i don't i really 292 00:15:03,750 --> 00:15:01,680 can't call that one 293 00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:03,760 if she did or not i know i did because 294 00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:04,959 you know i was home and i wanted some 295 00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:06,399 more so 296 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:08,160 um 297 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:12,639 yeah so you go back to your house maybe 298 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:14,720 there was some more cannabis oil and 299 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:16,560 what you guys definitely was we walked 300 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:18,560 around the land we showed i showed her 301 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:20,720 now as far as the now as far as digging 302 00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:22,959 you know as far as the time oh yeah i i 303 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:24,959 was i was going to get into that so you 304 00:15:27,910 --> 00:15:27,040 know according to according to anjalee's 305 00:15:30,150 --> 00:15:27,920 story 306 00:15:32,710 --> 00:15:30,160 you told her that you knew there was an 307 00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:32,720 alien mountain base there was aliens 308 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:35,120 inside the mountain so you dug a tunnel 309 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:36,880 to reach the base 310 00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:39,199 that's what she said that you relayed to 311 00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:41,440 her no i haven't even started digging 312 00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:42,399 yet 313 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:44,959 i am digging two tunnels on my land but 314 00:15:48,389 --> 00:15:46,800 i haven't even got a chance to start yet 315 00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:48,399 but the only reason i'm doing that is 316 00:15:53,350 --> 00:15:51,199 because i feel like there's water 317 00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:53,360 there's water in the mountain that's all 318 00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:55,440 it wasn't i i never claimed there was 319 00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:57,120 aliens in my mountain 320 00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:58,320 ever 321 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:00,800 there were um anyway uh so that 322 00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:03,279 contradicts a lot of her stories 323 00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:04,320 and 324 00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:05,519 you did tell me 325 00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:09,680 were um you were you were explaining to 326 00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:11,440 her that you were basically going to dig 327 00:16:15,509 --> 00:16:13,519 some tunnels and build you were going to 328 00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:15,519 build like a wine cellar and like a man 329 00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:17,680 yeah absolutely right it wasn't about 330 00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:19,759 aliens it was just about building 331 00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:22,079 something into the mountain yeah exactly 332 00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:24,000 like you know but you hadn't begun you 333 00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:26,079 hadn't you had not and to this day you 334 00:16:30,150 --> 00:16:27,839 have not begun 335 00:16:31,910 --> 00:16:30,160 i have not been nope haven't even so 336 00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:31,920 there's no there's no tunnels on the 337 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:33,279 mountain that you're wearing 338 00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:34,560 there's not a tunnel on this is there 339 00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:36,639 any caves or anything that you're aware 340 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:37,360 of 341 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:38,560 no 342 00:16:43,030 --> 00:16:40,959 yeah so that kind of contradicts a large 343 00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:43,040 part of the story he's claiming these 344 00:16:48,629 --> 00:16:46,959 are you know are absolutely not so 345 00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:48,639 um 346 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:51,120 so no no tunnels no caves that you're 347 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:54,480 aware of or entrances 348 00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:57,120 and someone also suggested that there 349 00:17:01,350 --> 00:16:59,360 could be some kind of a shed hiding an 350 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:01,360 entrance into the tunnel or something 351 00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:03,360 are you aware of anything like that 352 00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:05,520 there's there's a shed in front of where 353 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:06,880 i'm going to be digging so that's what 354 00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:09,839 she's talking about and that's where 355 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:12,400 and that was just a conversation anyway 356 00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:13,280 so 357 00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:16,160 yeah but she took she took it 358 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:18,079 she took it and said that you had 359 00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:20,480 already dug the tunnel into the mountain 360 00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:22,640 that you met the aliens 361 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:24,640 that they take people 362 00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:26,160 and then they teleport them back into 363 00:17:29,909 --> 00:17:28,319 your house no i never told her any of 364 00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:29,919 that no 365 00:17:33,909 --> 00:17:32,480 i i the only the conversation of me 366 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:33,919 digging a hole i mean i didn't really 367 00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:35,440 take i didn't really even talk about 368 00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:37,440 that too much with people you know 369 00:17:39,909 --> 00:17:38,720 because i didn't really want people to 370 00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:39,919 know what i was doing but i mean of 371 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:41,440 course if you're in a helicopter you're 372 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:42,559 going to see what i'm doing or whatever 373 00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:44,320 you know um 374 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:46,480 the squirrel's got great houses in the 375 00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:48,240 mountains so i was kind of following the 376 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:55,430 you know so you yourself you yourself 377 00:18:00,789 --> 00:17:58,160 have not had an alien experience at the 378 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,799 mountain or inside the mountain 379 00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:02,880 and you have never been teleported by 380 00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:05,200 the aliens or 381 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:07,840 none of that no it'd be cool though it 382 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,600 would be pretty cool yeah and just just 383 00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:11,600 to be clear though you you have a bit of 384 00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:13,679 an interest in ufos and aliens right 385 00:18:19,190 --> 00:18:16,880 that's why you were talking yeah okay 386 00:18:21,669 --> 00:18:19,200 aliens they exist for sure i mean there 387 00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:21,679 we co i believe that i believe they live 388 00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:23,520 here now you know what i mean i there's 389 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:25,039 no doubt in my mind that they live 390 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:26,960 underground you know 391 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:29,280 uh yeah but you haven't seen them in in 392 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:32,320 your mountain no or dug a tunnel to them 393 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:35,520 or communicated with any of the aliens 394 00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:36,240 so 395 00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:38,480 explain for me when she was at your home 396 00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:41,039 because she she tends to say basically 397 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,200 that you know 398 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:45,600 she kind of took a hike to the to the 399 00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:48,160 tunnel with you and another couple 400 00:18:52,950 --> 00:18:50,960 and then you all went in the tunnel and 401 00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:52,960 and then this is where she meets the 402 00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:54,559 aliens and 403 00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:57,600 none of that happened well not in not in 404 00:19:00,710 --> 00:18:58,559 physical 405 00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:00,720 appearance here i mean if it happened in 406 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:02,240 her 407 00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,120 want to really like take that away from 408 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:09,440 her if that's what 409 00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:12,080 she thinks happened then 410 00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,320 that's cool what a great story 411 00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:16,160 yeah she did she described it as a 412 00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:19,440 physical experience she you and 413 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:21,919 your wife and another couple went into 414 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,360 the tunnel 415 00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:25,280 we didn't we don't remember any we don't 416 00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:27,200 remember any tunnel we didn't get we 417 00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:29,280 don't remember any part of that 418 00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,679 um so what did happen she just walked 419 00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:33,520 around the grounds around the mountain 420 00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,559 like took a hike and then that was it 421 00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:39,440 we we all we all went okay as far as the 422 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,559 height goes 423 00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:42,400 it wasn't like a hike it was just up my 424 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:44,559 driveway to the upper level of the of 425 00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:45,360 our 426 00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:47,120 of what is cut 427 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:49,200 you follow me like what pads are cut you 428 00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:50,320 know like 429 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:51,440 where you can 430 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:52,960 walk without hiking the mountain we 431 00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:55,200 didn't hike we never we never 432 00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:57,280 hiked any mountain we walked up the 433 00:20:00,630 --> 00:19:58,559 driveway 434 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:00,640 about another i don't know it's another 435 00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:03,760 200 or 150 feet up 436 00:20:14,149 --> 00:20:05,280 and 437 00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:14,159 if it was 438 00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:16,400 to my knowledge she wanted to see like 439 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,760 more of the land or something maybe uh 440 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,360 i can't even remember why we walked up 441 00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:23,760 there because it was unusual that i 442 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:25,200 walked up there 443 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,600 on that day so 444 00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:29,600 with you know so basically you guys were 445 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:31,360 just hanging out and you were kind of 446 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:32,799 showing her your 447 00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,390 you had a big chunk of land there a nice 448 00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:40,400 chunk of land with the nice scenery and 449 00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:41,919 a mountain on it 450 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:44,320 and you're just showing her the mountain 451 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,240 and the land and things like that yeah 452 00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,480 yeah that's all just could you estimate 453 00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:50,559 for me like how long was she at your 454 00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:52,480 home in total and how long was she 455 00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:55,360 walking around the grounds 456 00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:58,080 um well we let's see we we got back from 457 00:21:03,350 --> 00:20:59,520 the coffee shop probably about two 458 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:03,360 o'clock two maybe three or so 459 00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:06,240 um we weren't outside too long we 460 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:07,600 probably 461 00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:10,240 maybe in a couple hours maybe before it 462 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:11,840 started getting dark maybe i don't 463 00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:13,120 remember you know it was probably it was 464 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:14,880 january so yeah it probably got dark 465 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:17,760 around four it was cold 466 00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:20,480 so we from that point i could see us 467 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:23,520 coming inside by the fire 468 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,440 um 469 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:27,520 and it was about that time though that i 470 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:29,360 think that call it was still light when 471 00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:30,960 that when because when the ambulance 472 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,720 showed up and the sheriff showed up oh 473 00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:33,760 yeah 474 00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:35,600 i was i was going to say just just to be 475 00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:38,240 clear because we're trying to get to to 476 00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:40,640 confirm or deny some bits of her story 477 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:42,000 we'll get to the ambulance i have that 478 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,440 on my list but 479 00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:45,520 she claimed that you guys were all in 480 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:47,520 the mountain and then 481 00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:49,840 either her or you i'm a little foggy on 482 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:51,200 the story it's been a little bit since 483 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:52,640 i've reviewed it all 484 00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:55,280 either her or all of you 485 00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:57,919 were inside the mountain in this tunnel 486 00:22:01,110 --> 00:21:58,720 and 487 00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:01,120 you were instantly teleported back to 488 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:03,200 your home 489 00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:05,280 well i don't i didn't you don't recall 490 00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:06,080 that 491 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:09,600 walked down we walked right back down 492 00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:11,840 the same way we walked up and came in 493 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,919 that came in the house 494 00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:14,960 and 495 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:18,400 you know that she was on her phone 496 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:20,640 she was on her phone and we didn't 497 00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:23,200 really i didn't think much of it 498 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,880 i mean you know a person has a phone 499 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:27,360 call you know what i mean so 500 00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:28,480 you know 501 00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:31,840 uh there's a sheriff in my front yard 502 00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:33,679 and there's an ambulance right with them 503 00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:34,640 and 504 00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:37,039 yeah can you explain to us why why would 505 00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:39,919 an ambulance show up for her at your 506 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:41,440 home i 507 00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:46,230 but they did a wellness check of her 508 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:46,960 right 509 00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,120 it was a welfare check so yeah when i 510 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:51,440 when i walked outside i i told the 511 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,200 sheriff i said i said man you got the 512 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:55,200 wrong house again because you know 513 00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,280 there's been they've mixed up my address 514 00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:59,200 before yeah it happens especially in 515 00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:01,039 rural areas yeah 516 00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:03,039 so 517 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:05,520 i said you got the wrong place you know 518 00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:08,480 and uh he said he said no is uh 519 00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:09,919 angelia here 520 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,840 and i just went i was like well what the 521 00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:14,080 [\h__\h] is that you know yeah i mean what 522 00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,760 what what what you know who is this 523 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:17,360 person you know what i mean like i just 524 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:18,960 brought this person to my house and now 525 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:21,520 there's there's a sheriff here and 526 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:22,880 now there's now there's an ambulance 527 00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:25,360 here you know anyway he so 528 00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,880 he he didn't give me any information 529 00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,559 until he said 530 00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,799 until he saw her you know and then after 531 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:32,480 he saw her and then and then the 532 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:35,039 ambulance was checking her out then once 533 00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,760 once she was in the ambulance then the 534 00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:39,440 sheriff and i had a you know we had 535 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,679 talks and and some laughs actually you 536 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:43,760 know i straight up told him i said hey 537 00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:46,400 so what's the deal here i mean what's up 538 00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:49,279 and uh he said well her uh somebody 539 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:51,840 called in for a welfare check for her 540 00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,320 i go oh okay so i mean i mean what's the 541 00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:55,679 problem are they thinking that she's 542 00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,559 inebriated or something or what 543 00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:00,159 and he goes well i really don't know and 544 00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:03,120 i go whatever i um 545 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,640 he couldn't really he didn't he wanted 546 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:06,720 it share his the information with me 547 00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:07,840 because i guess you can't because it's 548 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:10,080 investigation stuff or whatever and 549 00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:12,320 so uh 550 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,440 um 551 00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:15,120 yeah and i think i've heard her explain 552 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,440 maybe that her daughter called yeah 553 00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:19,520 because she was concerned about her or 554 00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:20,559 couldn't 555 00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:22,799 reach her on the phone so she called the 556 00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:25,440 local authorities to do a wellness check 557 00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,640 and then 558 00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:28,480 what what what goes on for a wellness 559 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:30,559 check they just the the paramedics just 560 00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:32,640 checked her out and checked their minds 561 00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:34,720 after she was okay or she was in the 562 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,320 paramedics for about probably i don't 563 00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:39,120 know 20 minutes or so 15 minutes and me 564 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,400 and the sheriff we were just we were 565 00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:42,480 laughing i said hey man i overdosed her 566 00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:44,000 with cannabis oil that's all that's 567 00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,679 going on here you know what i mean she's 568 00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:47,520 probably took way too much 569 00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:49,200 you told the sheriff you must have a 570 00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:50,240 good share 571 00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,240 oh yeah he was laughing his ass off man 572 00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:54,480 we were having we were joking about it 573 00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:55,360 you know 574 00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:57,440 yeah let's get back to the cannabis oil 575 00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,400 so 576 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,720 you know my original hypothesis is that 577 00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:03,039 she took some kind of drugs and and that 578 00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:04,640 led to her 579 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:07,600 having this strange experience that she 580 00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:10,720 she related to aliens somehow and 581 00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:12,960 meeting a purple being which is 582 00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:15,600 very very similar to a description that 583 00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:18,240 many people give of a dmt experience 584 00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:19,200 what 585 00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:25,520 does it really really hit you that hard 586 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:28,640 that you could maybe have some kind of a 587 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,440 just out of it experience and somehow 588 00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,360 interpret it as aliens 589 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,039 well i've eaten this stuff by the 590 00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:37,760 spoonfuls and i haven't yet seen an 591 00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:40,159 alien yet i mean it's i'm i mean i'm 592 00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:42,080 maybe if it's mixed with something 593 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:44,159 perhaps i'm not saying that somebody 594 00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:46,960 else can't you know i maybe it affects 595 00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:49,279 people in a different way you know 596 00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:53,590 yeah but i have done a little bit of 597 00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,039 research and checked in with a few 598 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,279 friends who are frequent users and 599 00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,279 there's a certain kind i can't recall it 600 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,279 off the top of my head that somebody 601 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,840 recounted to me could definitely knock 602 00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:06,080 you on your butt and make you feel like 603 00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:07,919 you're out of your own body and a few 604 00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:11,200 other strange effects well for sure for 605 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:12,320 sure 606 00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,269 did she did she 607 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:19,200 did she after this wellness check did 608 00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,320 she recount did she say talk about 609 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:24,320 aliens or being in the tunnel with the 610 00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:26,320 aliens or any of that kind of stuff so 611 00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:28,080 she didn't even mention the aliens to 612 00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,159 you they didn't talk about it the 613 00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:31,840 ambulance let her out 614 00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:33,840 she came right back in the house the the 615 00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,919 sheriff took off 616 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:36,880 she 617 00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,960 friend 618 00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:42,960 he came back and picked her up about 11 619 00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:46,559 30 that night she left her car here 620 00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:49,120 because she couldn't drive her car so 621 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:50,799 uh 622 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,480 she came back the next day 623 00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:54,960 and got her car about noon so she was 624 00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:56,880 she was impaired enough to know that she 625 00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:59,200 couldn't drive oh yes 626 00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:00,559 absolutely 627 00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:03,360 yeah and and 628 00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,240 so you so the next day she comes back to 629 00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,640 get her car does she tell you about any 630 00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,559 talk about the alien experience that she 631 00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:12,720 had or anything like that 632 00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:15,520 nothing nothing about any aliens until 633 00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:17,760 just last august 634 00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:19,360 yeah and i guess we can pick up the 635 00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:22,240 story there because apparently she she 636 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,919 doesn't really talk to you guys for 637 00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:25,520 several years 638 00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:27,200 and then what 639 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,799 about what what happens she starts 640 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,720 contacting you telling you about her 641 00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,640 alien experience and wanting to bring 642 00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,559 people there and 643 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:36,559 take us through that because that's 644 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:37,520 important 645 00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:38,960 um 646 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:41,360 my wife was informing me that this lady 647 00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,760 was trying to get a hold of me and and i 648 00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:45,520 honestly didn't remember who she was you 649 00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:46,559 know i was like 650 00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:48,240 she goes you know the lady that was here 651 00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,399 with they worked for the department of 652 00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:52,000 defense and 653 00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:53,279 and you know 654 00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,279 had the experience here you know the the 655 00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,360 ambulance and all that you know and and 656 00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:59,760 uh anyway i said oh well uh well gosh 657 00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:01,520 what would she want you know i mean what 658 00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:03,279 what can she possibly want it's been 659 00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,799 years what the heck 660 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:06,559 yeah you haven't heard from her in a 661 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:08,960 long time right well yeah years and then 662 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:10,960 all of a sudden now this now you have to 663 00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:13,440 know we met this person one day 664 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:16,720 one day at a coffee shop i brought her 665 00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:19,600 home you know we all hung out for you 666 00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:21,440 know a few hours or whatever and then 667 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:24,080 that happened 668 00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:25,840 the next day when she picked up her car 669 00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:28,159 we never spoke again we never we we 670 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,080 didn't we didn't keep in touch or 671 00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,720 anything it was one of those so 672 00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,640 uh 673 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:36,799 so then she starts contacting you three 674 00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:38,080 years later 675 00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:40,000 she's contacting 676 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,440 informing me that she wants to talk to 677 00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:44,799 me 678 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,720 and i was like a little 679 00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,240 hesitant and reluctant and i didn't 680 00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:50,080 really know what to think about it or 681 00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:52,399 whatever anyway when she when she you 682 00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:55,120 know finally 683 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:57,039 said something that sparked an interest 684 00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,480 like uh you know i want to talk to you 685 00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:00,320 about you know how your husband and i 686 00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:01,679 walked up the mountain together after 687 00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:03,200 you went to bed 688 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:04,720 you know that of course now my wife 689 00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:06,720 wants to know what this woman has to say 690 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,840 right so 691 00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,200 that was terrible 692 00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:11,120 that was a manipulative kind of move 693 00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:13,279 there you know because we never we we 694 00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:14,399 never 695 00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,799 alone 696 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:20,640 up in the mountain so 697 00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,470 where was i at 698 00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:28,480 about her contacting you and what she 699 00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:30,080 wanted right 700 00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:32,159 yeah so finally i went ahead and reached 701 00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,360 out to her 702 00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:35,679 and we had a talk and i even i even uh 703 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,080 we even had a zoom we had a couple zoom 704 00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:40,559 calls and you know whatever face time or 705 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:43,520 you know i think it was face time we did 706 00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,640 um 707 00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:46,880 talked and she told me her story and she 708 00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:49,039 told me what was going on and of course 709 00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:51,440 were completely taken back 710 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:54,720 like whoa like wow okay 711 00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:58,000 uh yeah because she's she's recounting 712 00:30:02,230 --> 00:29:59,600 an experience that she claims you all 713 00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,240 had together and your your recollection 714 00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:04,399 of the events is completely 715 00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:05,360 not there 716 00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:06,960 normal right i mean it was just like a 717 00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,440 normal it was a normal day normal day 718 00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:11,840 normal night no aliens no ufos you 719 00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:14,159 didn't see anything strange or 720 00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:16,000 even talk about 721 00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:17,679 no there was the experience 722 00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:19,760 at night you know so 723 00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,200 um 724 00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,200 yeah so once 725 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,360 when she contacts you then she's 726 00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:26,960 at some point she starts telling you 727 00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,840 that 728 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,600 you know she had this alien experience 729 00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:31,440 there's aliens in your mountain and she 730 00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:32,799 wants to bring a whole team of 731 00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,320 investigators right and i mean how do 732 00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:38,159 you react to that how do you how did you 733 00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,120 react 734 00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:41,279 well at first i you know at first we 735 00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:43,039 were almost receptive we're you know 736 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,120 we're talking about it like okay you 737 00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:47,760 know i was listening 738 00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:50,399 when she was telling me you know some of 739 00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:51,840 the 740 00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,399 way it was going to go down 741 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,470 um 742 00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:04,870 then i was were you open to the idea or 743 00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:07,760 did you think i'm sorry i was open for 744 00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,080 if she was going to pay me money to 745 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,240 uproot my life and you know stop me from 746 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,640 going to work and stuff like that so 747 00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:16,000 absolutely sure you want to come over 748 00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:17,760 and dig in my mountain and bring all 749 00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:20,320 your equipment over here well 750 00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:23,200 somebody's writing a check 751 00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,279 that's very honest of you but it's true 752 00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:27,200 because i'm sure that you knew that this 753 00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,799 would turn into some kind of a media 754 00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:30,240 circus maybe 755 00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,080 because of her defense intelligence 756 00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:34,559 background or whatever right yeah and 757 00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:36,000 that's what she and she gave us that 758 00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:37,360 threat too i mean there's been some 759 00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,200 threats here when we when we started 760 00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:40,960 saying no to this and started going the 761 00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:43,360 other way when it wasn't going in a 762 00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:45,679 positive direction then she was starting 763 00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:48,159 then she was using threats like you know 764 00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:51,039 hey i'm intel uh you know i i work for 765 00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,880 the government who do you think you are 766 00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,399 i'm not going away 767 00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,559 [\h__\h] like that you know uh we're gonna 768 00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:58,399 we're coming whether you like it or not 769 00:32:01,509 --> 00:32:00,080 [\h__\h] like that's now that's gotten me 770 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,519 pissed off where you said you're going 771 00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:03,440 to tell me what you're going to do on my 772 00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,880 land 773 00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:06,159 well we're not going to do that because 774 00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:08,480 there is nothing on this land there is 775 00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,440 there's no 776 00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,120 tunnels on this land 777 00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,360 so maybe perhaps 778 00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:15,600 angelia had her 779 00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:16,960 i mean i'm not going to sit here and say 780 00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:19,440 she has not seen aliens or dealt with 781 00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:21,279 aliens or anything like that perhaps she 782 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:22,320 has 783 00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:29,200 um and and they're and they're coming 784 00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:30,720 out like this 785 00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:33,760 and that's that's cool okay that's 786 00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:35,679 whatever 787 00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,320 here's the thing um she can have her 788 00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:40,559 experiences but they're not here 789 00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:43,440 on my land physically they're not here 790 00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:44,880 you know 791 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:46,559 yeah and that's what seems to 792 00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:48,000 understand 793 00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:50,559 but did what did you didn't you were you 794 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,640 thinking like none of this happened so 795 00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:54,799 why would she even want to dig here or 796 00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:56,960 what did you talk to her and say none of 797 00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:58,720 this happened that's the way that you 798 00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,279 recall yeah and she just argued with you 799 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,440 right that you didn't remember it or no 800 00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:05,200 she's you know she's telling us we do 801 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,000 not remember and that the beings took 802 00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,320 our memories away and now now they're 803 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,080 telling her that it's time for us to 804 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,269 wow that's what she's telling me and my 805 00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:19,200 wife that we 806 00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:21,200 are now supposed to remember these 807 00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:22,960 things so in other words it's like it's 808 00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,360 almost as if she's trying to manipulate 809 00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:27,679 our brains or something to to 810 00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,399 to to you know believe her story and and 811 00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:32,399 then and then go ahead and get on this 812 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,799 show here and say yeah steve it's 813 00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:36,480 totally true 814 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:39,919 i got it in my mountain i got tunnels 815 00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,080 oh no it's quite you know would i do 816 00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:43,679 that why i wouldn't want to do that i 817 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,080 mean you know why would i do that 818 00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,760 yeah i hate to say it but 819 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:49,840 your par your version of the story is 820 00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:52,960 quite the letdown obviously and 821 00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,279 one thing point of clarification though 822 00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,519 did she was she contacting you and doing 823 00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:59,440 these phone calls to you and zoom calls 824 00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:01,919 before this big press conference she did 825 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,399 at the at the lincoln memorial or after 826 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,240 that 827 00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:08,800 it was okay so 828 00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:11,520 so it was it was it was coming up to the 829 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:13,599 week of the press conference 830 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:16,480 like the next week okay okay so she she 831 00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,399 was trying to get you to agree 832 00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:20,159 we were not we were not aware of this 833 00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:23,359 press conference whatsoever 834 00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,320 um i happened to give her a call 835 00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:28,560 when i finally called her 836 00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:30,639 and it happened to be like i don't know 837 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:34,399 a couple days before the conference 838 00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:41,430 she kind of she she sugar coated that 839 00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:43,040 conference she was basically just saying 840 00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:44,000 well you know i'm going to go to 841 00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:46,000 washington and i had an experience at 842 00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:48,079 your house and and i and and i'm gonna 843 00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:49,839 go share my story and i've been writing 844 00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:52,079 about it for three years and i and i 845 00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:53,679 haven't told you anything but now i'm 846 00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:55,919 ready to tell you and but i'm and i'm 847 00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:57,119 just letting you know that i'm gonna go 848 00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,480 do this and is it okay with you and 849 00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:00,480 we're like well sure you know i mean 850 00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,480 knock yourself out i guess 851 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,400 you know i i didn't really it was so 852 00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:06,480 shocking what she had to say we really 853 00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:07,599 didn't know 854 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,960 what how to 855 00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:10,800 what to tell her you know what i mean 856 00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:13,280 okay so you're gonna so anyway so here's 857 00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,599 so she never sent us a link to the 858 00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:17,359 conference she never sent us the 859 00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:18,880 information so we can watch the 860 00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:20,800 conference we didn't get that 861 00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:23,520 information until like a week later 862 00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:26,000 wow and where what how did you feel 863 00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,599 knowing that she stood at the lincoln 864 00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:29,440 memorial and was telling this story 865 00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:32,000 about aliens at your house and involving 866 00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:33,280 you and your wife 867 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:36,320 it was it was tripping us out man i mean 868 00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,760 we we had no idea it was going to 869 00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,079 imagine where it is now 870 00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:42,720 you know you know like we had no 871 00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:44,960 like we we didn't know what to do it 872 00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:46,800 actually freaked us out pretty well how 873 00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:48,800 about that it was 874 00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,560 we were we it's been a stressful 875 00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:52,400 experience how about that this whole 876 00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:54,000 thing has been a bunch of stress that we 877 00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:55,599 haven't needed i mean we've never had 878 00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:58,480 cameras before we got them now 879 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,000 there's other things i haven't had 880 00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,920 before on this mountain that that's on 881 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:04,000 this mountain now you know 882 00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,359 yeah so you have to worry about your 883 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:07,200 security and well it's a bunch that's a 884 00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:09,760 bunch yeah exactly security yeah you 885 00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:11,119 know 886 00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:13,839 it's it's [\h__\h] so 887 00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:17,040 to to to get everybody vamped up 888 00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:18,960 without how about this if you want to do 889 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:19,760 this 890 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:25,280 and you really want to bring your people 891 00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,640 here 892 00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:29,359 then get that checkbook out go ahead and 893 00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:31,520 buy the land the starting bid is 10 894 00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:34,240 million dollars i already told you that 895 00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,359 and 896 00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:37,040 write a check 897 00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:40,320 and you can go dig all you want up here 898 00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,599 straight up 899 00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:43,440 i think that's very fair way to do it 900 00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:46,400 just by having by the mountain right 901 00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:47,440 so 902 00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,920 after after you got went to the press 903 00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:51,200 conference 904 00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:53,520 did you guys you and your wife started 905 00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:54,720 sort of 906 00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:57,119 checking around were you shocked by the 907 00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,960 internet um 908 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:00,480 you know by 909 00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:02,720 all the stories on the internet and the 910 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:05,280 views that that her stories were getting 911 00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:06,880 and her following that was getting 912 00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:08,960 really big based on all these stories 913 00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:11,119 yeah all the [\h__\h] talk yeah oh yeah 914 00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,560 that's what was really starting to 915 00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,079 stress us out yeah 916 00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:16,800 people saying they're gonna come and 917 00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:19,200 do it anyway and come take our you know 918 00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:21,119 do what they want anyway [\h__\h] like that 919 00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:22,560 you know so 920 00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:24,960 yeah it was it was definitely scary 921 00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:27,599 and it's still yeah and there was 922 00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:30,160 there was there was one filmmaker who 923 00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:32,000 again back to the wrong way and we can 924 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,480 get into that situation but 925 00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:35,520 you know 926 00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:36,480 people 927 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:39,359 somebody threatened to just fly drones 928 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,240 over uh brian's mountain but 929 00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,640 they had the wrong location thankfully 930 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:46,079 but people were 931 00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,040 yeah 932 00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:49,200 just just so every i want to make sure 933 00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:51,760 that we're very clear on this point 934 00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:53,680 believers of anjali 935 00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:56,079 or critics and cynics who wanted to 936 00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:57,359 prove her 937 00:38:02,630 --> 00:37:59,599 stories were fake were threatening to 938 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:02,640 just go on to brian's land or find 939 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,760 brian's mountain and find the tunnel 940 00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:07,599 believers wanted to go and find the 941 00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:09,680 tunnel and find the alien and i think 942 00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:12,400 that this is very dangerous because 943 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,560 you never know what you know hopefully 944 00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:16,400 somebody maybe they're just a little 945 00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,000 obsessed with aliens and they're not 946 00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:20,560 thinking right but you never know the 947 00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:22,480 mindset of somebody that's willing to 948 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:25,280 trespass on somebody else's land or go 949 00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:28,400 digging around somebody's basically 950 00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:30,880 backyard on it's like you're back 951 00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,359 this thing is in his backyard basically 952 00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:35,760 it's got a huge backyard lucky guy you 953 00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,640 know he's got a big plot of land there 954 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,720 but the fact that there was all these 955 00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:43,040 people on the internet saying 956 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,800 you know she said we're doing the 957 00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:47,280 expedition then she started saying you 958 00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:49,760 wouldn't allow the expedition so then 959 00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:51,680 she's saying we're going to do it anyway 960 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,200 or we're going to find a way to do it 961 00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:55,280 anyway and can you talk for a little 962 00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,480 more about 963 00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:57,520 did she 964 00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:58,960 you mentioned that she basically 965 00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:00,480 threatened you that she worked for the 966 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:02,000 government and all these things so she 967 00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:04,960 was trying to twist your arm into 968 00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:07,680 her will to do this expedition right 969 00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:09,680 basically when when when it wasn't 970 00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:10,800 working out 971 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:13,280 when when we were we were pulling back 972 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,280 on even thinking about it 973 00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,040 that's when she started that's when the 974 00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:18,880 the the more negative words were coming 975 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,270 yeah and so 976 00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,160 so she has the press conference and then 977 00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,160 does she continue to pressure you to do 978 00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:30,320 this after after the press conference 979 00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:32,400 she continues to contact you 980 00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:33,760 telling you that she's going to do this 981 00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:35,200 expedition and 982 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,200 and how did you and your wife feel about 983 00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:39,760 that i mean i heard you say well pay us 984 00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:43,280 but yeah right pay us pay us 985 00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,640 if i mean 986 00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:46,800 i basically said you you know because i 987 00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,760 you know i didn't really want to deal 988 00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:49,200 with all the stress of you know what are 989 00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:50,800 you doing in my land 990 00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:52,800 you know i like the land just the way it 991 00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,800 is you know uh 992 00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:56,400 what kind of what kind of energy is 993 00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:58,240 coming to my land stuff like that we're 994 00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:00,640 real protective about who who we have 995 00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:02,560 around us you know so 996 00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:03,440 um 997 00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:06,000 it was all really a lot to think about 998 00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:08,000 so we just decided well how about this 999 00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:10,160 just how about just a bag of money and 1000 00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:12,079 then we just 1001 00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:13,839 you guys can have and then we'll just go 1002 00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:15,440 fishing somewhere maybe we'll just move 1003 00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:17,599 to florida or something 1004 00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:18,560 you know 1005 00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:21,520 and yeah you can have this cool mountain 1006 00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:22,480 and 1007 00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:27,040 says then she should be able to make 1008 00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:28,480 billions with 1009 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,839 bigelow or elon or you know 1010 00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:33,839 yeah whoever else you said if you're so 1011 00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:36,240 sure about it then 1012 00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,790 maybe the maybe the skinwalker ranch 1013 00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:44,400 owner would be interested who knows 1014 00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,280 right 1015 00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:47,359 hey you never know it might be here it 1016 00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:50,079 might it might be here and so after 1017 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,599 after the press conference and her 1018 00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:53,040 trying to twist your arm you guys 1019 00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:55,359 basically said no according to her that 1020 00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:56,960 you're not coming here 1021 00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:58,000 yeah right 1022 00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:58,640 now 1023 00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:00,160 not without the deal that i just put on 1024 00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:01,599 the table 1025 00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:04,000 you pay us money we leave you dig that's 1026 00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:05,119 it 1027 00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,560 and then you guys started actively sort 1028 00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,400 of following what she was saying on the 1029 00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:12,079 internet that had to be frustrating for 1030 00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:13,839 you knowing that most of her story 1031 00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:16,880 didn't happen the way she described but 1032 00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:19,119 she was going on shows and you know 1033 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:21,200 getting all this attention and was 1034 00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:23,520 pissing it was pissing us off listening 1035 00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:24,880 to the lies 1036 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:25,920 you know 1037 00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:28,480 and the in the changing of the story 1038 00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,200 there 1039 00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:31,119 i mean not not only was it not true but 1040 00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,200 i mean she she was changing the story 1041 00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:35,359 too so there was some things that she 1042 00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,880 was not remembering what she was saying 1043 00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,240 to people 1044 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:40,319 evidently because we've been following 1045 00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:43,520 this pretty closely from the you know 1046 00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:45,760 from the sidelines of course you know 1047 00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:47,599 this is a personal question and uh you 1048 00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,079 know uh and i understand if maybe you 1049 00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:52,400 just want to keep things private but it 1050 00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,359 is kind of pertinent to the her story 1051 00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:57,200 uh lady vimana mentions this and thanks 1052 00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:58,319 for her kindness she says at the 1053 00:42:03,349 --> 00:41:59,920 beginning of the interview brian said 1054 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,359 that he'd beaten cancer yet anjali told 1055 00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,200 us and this was a recurring theme for 1056 00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:07,359 her brian just so that you know 1057 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,160 that uh we were stressing you out 1058 00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:12,240 everybody questioning her story was 1059 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,800 stressing you out and making your cancer 1060 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,720 worse with our questions 1061 00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:18,880 so people are very curious is your 1062 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,599 recovery recent or was angeli lying to 1063 00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,160 guilt us and stop us from trying to 1064 00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:25,839 contact you or 1065 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,119 i have been fighting cancer since 2013 1066 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:31,680 and i'm still fighting cancer 1067 00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:34,480 it started outside lymphoma 1068 00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:37,920 and thyroid i don't know if you can 1069 00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:39,520 there's just right there 1070 00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,280 i can solo you there 1071 00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:43,119 yeah so you had some surgeries to remove 1072 00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:44,960 the lymph nodes and things surgery the 1073 00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:47,359 surgery was actually above my heart on 1074 00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,560 my heart 1075 00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:50,319 on my aortic bridge that's what it 1076 00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:51,760 started i didn't even really know about 1077 00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,119 all the lymph nodes and the thyroid so 1078 00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,359 um i'm probably i'm i don't even know 1079 00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,119 i'm at last i 1080 00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,280 checked i was about a stage two stage 1081 00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:03,599 one area so 1082 00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,920 well that's progress at least right 1083 00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:08,079 yeah yeah i'm in treatment i've been i'm 1084 00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:09,920 still in treatment every week and so i 1085 00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,839 got a test coming up here shortly to see 1086 00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,520 if things are 1087 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:15,359 moving in the right direction on that so 1088 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:16,880 yes i'm 1089 00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:18,560 cancer never went away i'm still 1090 00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:21,839 fighting um a lot on it and you know and 1091 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:24,480 it takes a lot to do that you know 1092 00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,240 it takes a lot you know and i i'm 1093 00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,160 hesitant to mention this but i have to 1094 00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:30,960 voice this concern of mine 1095 00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:33,280 one might question the integrity or the 1096 00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:35,119 ethics of somebody who would involve 1097 00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,760 somebody that's fighting cancer in a 1098 00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:39,760 story like this because obviously she 1099 00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,119 has to know this is going to bring some 1100 00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,440 kind of stress and anxiety on you that 1101 00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:45,359 you really don't need right now right 1102 00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,599 you should be focused on your recovery 1103 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:49,599 we asked her nicely my wife asked her 1104 00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:52,240 nicely we we said look 1105 00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:53,520 you know 1106 00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:54,560 it's 1107 00:44:01,270 --> 00:43:59,680 time you know there's i got too much 1108 00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:01,280 [\h__\h] going on right now and i got way 1109 00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:03,760 too much treatment going on to to be 1110 00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:04,800 gone 1111 00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,800 doing treatment while i you know people 1112 00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,640 are on my land without me here that's 1113 00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:10,480 not going to happen you know unless you 1114 00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,550 well just just for any rich people out 1115 00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:18,240 there who want to buy a mountain that 1116 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,560 may have aliens in it it's 10 million 1117 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,800 dollars right it may well that's the 1118 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,640 starting that's the starting number i'd 1119 00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:26,240 like to see the bidding war go a little 1120 00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:27,920 higher now 1121 00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:29,599 yeah god bless you 1122 00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:30,720 so 1123 00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:34,400 yeah there's been a lot of there's been 1124 00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,440 a lot of uh back and forth about yeah we 1125 00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:39,839 were we were stressing you out 1126 00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:42,079 i think it's her causing the stress not 1127 00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,240 people asking questions about her story 1128 00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:46,720 on the internet or trying did were you 1129 00:44:50,950 --> 00:44:48,160 aware that all these people on the 1130 00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:50,960 internet it was like i don't know if you 1131 00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,520 saw that documentary uh like don't mess 1132 00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,280 with cats but like 1133 00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,960 it was almost like that like a whole 1134 00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:58,720 team of people got together on the 1135 00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:00,640 internet and decided that this story was 1136 00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:02,319 interesting and we want to hear from 1137 00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:03,440 wayne 1138 00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,000 so the whole teams of people like a 1139 00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:08,160 whole bunch of different researchers all 1140 00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,720 started doing this detective work trying 1141 00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:12,960 to find you i called all these 1142 00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,880 construction companies looking for a guy 1143 00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:16,400 that owned a mountain i can't tell you 1144 00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:18,400 how many dudes hung up on me like what i 1145 00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,079 don't have time for this [\h__\h] what 1146 00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:22,400 aliens no i don't own a map with aliens 1147 00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:24,160 click but 1148 00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,720 we people were able to find 1149 00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:28,720 see she threw us off the trail because 1150 00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:30,640 she she once she said 1151 00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,280 well i changed trisha's name to 1152 00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:35,520 something else but i didn't change 1153 00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,240 wayne's name so we failed a guy who was 1154 00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:40,160 named wayne who owned a construction 1155 00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,280 company and we could look at the 1156 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:43,520 satellite maps and see a mountain right 1157 00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,000 behind his home we were convinced that 1158 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,319 was the guy she lied and said yes that's 1159 00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:50,480 the guy claiming that she was trying to 1160 00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,000 just protect you the real guy 1161 00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:56,160 were you aware that there was like whole 1162 00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:57,760 bunch of researchers all over the 1163 00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,000 internet looking for you yeah we were 1164 00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:02,079 [\h__\h] our pants 1165 00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:03,839 i'm sorry if i put any stress on you 1166 00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:05,599 because i was one of those idiots out 1167 00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:07,760 there looking for you 1168 00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:11,040 we didn't we weren't really mad at you 1169 00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:12,960 i mean 1170 00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:16,720 thousands of people when one person is 1171 00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:17,760 doing this 1172 00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:18,640 you know 1173 00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:20,480 yeah yeah and i have to tell you it's a 1174 00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,240 little bit surreal getting to talk to 1175 00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,400 you in person because 1176 00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,480 in my mind i go through this journey 1177 00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,560 i've been on this whole story of me 1178 00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,640 spending a week on the phone calling all 1179 00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,079 these construction companies i was 1180 00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,400 looking over satellite maps then i 1181 00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:36,240 started going to public information 1182 00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,800 sites like okay who owns this land where 1183 00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,640 this mountain is does he own a 1184 00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:42,880 construction company there's this whole 1185 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,280 journey to try to get to you and it's a 1186 00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:47,280 little bit surreal to me that a few 1187 00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:50,480 months later here you are and and also 1188 00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,720 this kind of humanized part of the story 1189 00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,400 because at first i thought you were her 1190 00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:56,240 imaginary friends and she just made you 1191 00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:57,440 two up 1192 00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:58,319 you know 1193 00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:00,160 because you were anonymous and and the 1194 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,720 story seems pretty crazy and outlandish 1195 00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,720 but now having spoken to you and heard 1196 00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,880 parts of your side of the story it 1197 00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,280 humanizes it a bit more to me because 1198 00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,440 people need to remember what when these 1199 00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:13,760 stories start that 1200 00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,920 these are real people you know with real 1201 00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:18,160 lives and you know brian's got a wife 1202 00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,559 and children and a job and and health 1203 00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:22,480 concerns right now 1204 00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:24,880 so it's just odd to me that she she 1205 00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:28,160 would sort of blame us because we 1206 00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,880 went to find you but she dropped didn't 1207 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:32,640 didn't you feel she dropped an awful lot 1208 00:47:37,270 --> 00:47:35,440 of breadcrumbs along the way 1209 00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:37,280 breadcrumbs it was that was pissing us 1210 00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:39,040 off too and i mean 1211 00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:41,040 that her her and i had talks about that 1212 00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,400 i said well you know you're pretty much 1213 00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,640 giving it up where we are who we are i 1214 00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:46,880 mean it wasn't hard to find out 1215 00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:49,760 after all those breadcrumbs you know 1216 00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:52,319 so anyway it is here this is who i am 1217 00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:54,880 and here here we are and uh we're gonna 1218 00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:56,480 we're gonna lay everything out on the 1219 00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:00,240 table here and just be truth about it 1220 00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:01,520 because i like you know true we're on 1221 00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,559 truth seekers i like true seekers 1222 00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:06,240 thank you brian and and you know i 1223 00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,960 appreciate that brian actually 1224 00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:11,040 off air he told me 1225 00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:12,800 we have to be careful because i want to 1226 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,520 be i don't want to beat her up or or you 1227 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,400 know oh absolutely addictive or you know 1228 00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:20,240 he was very clear with me that we have 1229 00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:22,160 to be respectful to her which i really 1230 00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:24,000 respect because he could have come here 1231 00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,839 all guns blazing cursing her out 1232 00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:28,319 following his family all this stress no 1233 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,440 no i wish i wish her the best i you know 1234 00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,520 good luck with your journey i think it's 1235 00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,200 an amazing story 1236 00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:37,280 i i believe that she has amazing 1237 00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,960 experiences from her career you know she 1238 00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:41,920 must 1239 00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:47,109 that's all i really can say about that i 1240 00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,640 mean she's probably had an amazing 1241 00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:50,480 career in the military 1242 00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:52,240 yeah and just when you met her did she 1243 00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,520 talk to you about working for the 1244 00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:55,359 defense intelligence agency and all that 1245 00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:57,760 stuff for very little not too much we 1246 00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:59,119 just knew she did 1247 00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:00,640 you know but she did she did mention 1248 00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:02,400 that she worked there and that was about 1249 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:03,839 it you know 1250 00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:05,280 worked for the department of defense and 1251 00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,800 we you know she we knew that she wasn't 1252 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,480 lying i mean she had stickers all up and 1253 00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:10,079 down her windshield you know a lot of 1254 00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:10,880 them 1255 00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:13,280 so yeah i i have to tell you the truth 1256 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,040 when she first came out with her story i 1257 00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:17,280 said this woman's fake she never worked 1258 00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:19,280 for the military she never worked this 1259 00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,720 is because most of the time just so 1260 00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:22,640 you're aware a lot of times people come 1261 00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:24,079 out with these fantastical stories and 1262 00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:25,599 they make all these claims about where 1263 00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:27,920 they worked or their education and it 1264 00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,079 turns out most of the stuff is 1265 00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:32,720 fabricated and so i was kind of shocked 1266 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:35,200 when i started digging in and going oh 1267 00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:37,520 she really was in the air force oh she 1268 00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:38,800 really did work for the defense 1269 00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:41,440 intelligence agency not once but twice 1270 00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:43,119 once as a contractor and once as a 1271 00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,480 direct employee 1272 00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,079 so then i got more interested in the 1273 00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,400 story because why is this woman that 1274 00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:50,160 worked for these 1275 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:52,400 government agencies suddenly talking 1276 00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,760 about all these aliens right 1277 00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:56,720 that's 1278 00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,960 i mean maybe a lot of her i mean 1279 00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,800 i think i think i think she's had 1280 00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:04,640 experiences 1281 00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:12,960 yes but you know and and but it's it's 1282 00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,920 said that you know these beings have the 1283 00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:18,000 the ability to take away you know uh 1284 00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,839 your memory and all that you know have 1285 00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:21,839 you heard about anything like that 1286 00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:24,240 sure and missing time sure 1287 00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:27,119 um yeah and missing time and stuff so 1288 00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,480 you know if she got to have that 1289 00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:30,960 experience here that's amazing 1290 00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:35,430 but again 1291 00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:41,430 that brings me to another one of my 1292 00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,800 questions because 1293 00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,640 at any point did you sort of second 1294 00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,559 guess yourself and go looking more on 1295 00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:48,720 that mountain 1296 00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,480 or sitting out there at night looking 1297 00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:53,200 for spaceships landing or anything no no 1298 00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:54,960 i'm not gonna do all that i've i've been 1299 00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,720 up on this mountain a lot of years so i 1300 00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:59,040 i know a lot of i know pretty much every 1301 00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:00,640 rock up here so 1302 00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,910 the only thing i thought was maybe you 1303 00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:09,440 know maybe 1304 00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:12,000 she was she you know our maybe we were 1305 00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,680 stopped in time and she wasn't that's 1306 00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,880 the only thing i was thinking you know 1307 00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,640 because you hear other stories you hear 1308 00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,880 other stories of you know people being 1309 00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:20,559 abducted and 1310 00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,720 you know they didn't get to remember 1311 00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:23,760 anything 1312 00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:25,040 you know 1313 00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,480 so 1314 00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:28,079 that's the only thing i was thinking it 1315 00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,839 would be something like that with her 1316 00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:31,280 mind 1317 00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,640 not 1318 00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:36,400 we didn't get you know we didn't get 1319 00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,720 anything we weren't we didn't lose any 1320 00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:40,160 time 1321 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,160 on our end you know 1322 00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:47,349 exactly right yeah just to play devil's 1323 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,240 advocate here yeah yeah who knows right 1324 00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:52,000 i mean that's the only but as far as 1325 00:51:56,309 --> 00:51:53,359 physical 1326 00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:56,319 tunnels in my backyard they're not there 1327 00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:57,359 so 1328 00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:58,960 if they're in her mind then they're 1329 00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:00,559 there you know because she has a pretty 1330 00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:03,359 descriptive story about my tunnels and 1331 00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:05,119 my tools and my 1332 00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:06,400 in my 1333 00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,359 equipment uh yeah she's very imaginative 1334 00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,440 and and and to her credit you know she's 1335 00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:13,040 a writer 1336 00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,280 she's written fiction books you have to 1337 00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:17,920 be imaginative to do that this could be 1338 00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:19,760 another one 1339 00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,839 yeah it's quite possible you know there 1340 00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:23,440 was a push 1341 00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:25,920 people in the ufo community near her 1342 00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,839 close to her were sort of pushing her to 1343 00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:29,280 write a book and 1344 00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:31,599 make a documentary and i believe she had 1345 00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:33,280 plans to do that at the beginning of 1346 00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:35,280 this but then she got a lot of flack for 1347 00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:37,119 trying to cash in on the story you know 1348 00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:38,880 she's just trying to cash in so then she 1349 00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:40,880 canceled those plans for a documentary 1350 00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:42,160 in a book 1351 00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:43,520 and 1352 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,720 you know i 1353 00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,040 so it appears then the motive is not 1354 00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:49,359 money which is again makes her a bit of 1355 00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,119 a unicorn because she claims she doesn't 1356 00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,920 want money from the story 1357 00:52:58,230 --> 00:52:55,359 well you know 1358 00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:58,240 i wouldn't claim that at this point 1359 00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:59,599 yeah 1360 00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,760 she's she's got she's got a lot of 1361 00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:03,119 she's got a lot of attention on this 1362 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:07,910 i mean look she brought wayne out of the 1363 00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:10,240 tunnel 1364 00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:11,760 yeah i'm telling you this is very 1365 00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:14,000 surreal that this is when i heard that i 1366 00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:15,520 was actually going to get to talk to you 1367 00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:17,359 and then uh 1368 00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:19,839 and i have to say brian i i got to talk 1369 00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:22,000 to brian on the phone and i said 1370 00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,680 look i i don't know how to ask you this 1371 00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:25,440 but people really want to hear your 1372 00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:27,280 story is there any way on earth you 1373 00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,440 would do an interview and he said let me 1374 00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,440 think about it yes whenever whenever you 1375 00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:33,839 want to do it and i was like great you 1376 00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:35,520 know because people did they want people 1377 00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:37,359 want to hear your side of what happened 1378 00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:40,559 that night it's a great story but if if 1379 00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:43,839 this story only happened in her own mind 1380 00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:45,760 it's a lot less compelling to me and 1381 00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:48,400 again i agree with you she may believe i 1382 00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:50,079 believe she believes she had this 1383 00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,559 strange experience and met these several 1384 00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:54,640 different races of aliens oh you know 1385 00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:56,240 that's the other thing were you 1386 00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:58,640 surprised at the level of detail of her 1387 00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:01,040 story and how you know she met 1388 00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,520 human looking aliens and some of them 1389 00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:05,839 were gray aliens and then there was the 1390 00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:08,160 mantis alien and were you surprised at 1391 00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:11,520 the detail see that's what 1392 00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:14,000 i am surprised of that detail 1393 00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:15,760 and it also that that's what makes me 1394 00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:17,440 think that she's had a lot of 1395 00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:20,160 experiences in her career 1396 00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:21,599 that yeah maybe 1397 00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:22,720 that 1398 00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,880 know in her life and and and 1399 00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:28,640 maybe she saw him again here i don't 1400 00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:30,000 know uh 1401 00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,280 she claims that she's had other 1402 00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:33,359 experiences in her life 1403 00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,200 when she was young i mean she does have 1404 00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:36,880 other stories here so 1405 00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:39,920 why this one the big one um 1406 00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:42,079 they really well that i i think maybe 1407 00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:43,760 because that's where the story begins 1408 00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:45,440 for many people that's what they first 1409 00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:46,799 hear from her 1410 00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:48,799 but like many of these people it seems 1411 00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:51,599 that her story is evolved through a 1412 00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:54,400 little bit of time and now i believe 1413 00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:56,799 last night really i think that she 1414 00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,960 claims that she has conscious contact 1415 00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,720 what she calls conscious contact with 1416 00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:02,160 the aliens 1417 00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:04,400 which is sort of telepathic contact but 1418 00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:05,839 a little deeper than that because it 1419 00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:07,839 involves emotions and she claims she has 1420 00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:09,599 that every day 1421 00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:12,559 which i i have a little bit of a problem 1422 00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:14,960 with because just recently she 1423 00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:16,400 posted some 1424 00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:19,200 very fake looking ufo photos 1425 00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:20,799 and uh 1426 00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:22,240 my question is always why didn't the 1427 00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:24,319 aliens that you talk to every day tell 1428 00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:26,079 you those are fake photos don't tweet 1429 00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,799 those out because it could embarrass you 1430 00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:30,960 or whatever 1431 00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:32,000 you know 1432 00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:33,680 i don't understand if she's talking to 1433 00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:36,240 aliens every day 1434 00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:37,920 why they wouldn't warn her against 1435 00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:40,799 certain things i suppose well that'd be 1436 00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:42,480 my question too 1437 00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:44,559 and somebody else asked if she's in such 1438 00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:46,160 close contact with the aliens why 1439 00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,880 wouldn't she ask the aliens to heal you 1440 00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:49,920 brian 1441 00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,760 as a favor after all they're they're 1442 00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:53,359 living in your mountain the least they 1443 00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:55,200 could do is you know what the hell man 1444 00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:57,839 yeah right do you a solid there right 1445 00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,839 yeah do me a solid man i'm tired of 1446 00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:02,960 ivs you know 1447 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:04,640 yeah that's never fun i'm sorry to hear 1448 00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:06,240 that but i'm glad for your progress 1449 00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:08,960 certainly oh yeah well man it's not that 1450 00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:11,839 bad actually it's it's it's it's been an 1451 00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:14,640 amazing journey it's been a hard one and 1452 00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:17,440 a good one at the same time that makes 1453 00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:18,720 sense 1454 00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:19,520 sure 1455 00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:20,640 i'm grateful 1456 00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:26,160 yeah and i wanted to talk about uh just 1457 00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:27,599 you know there was this 1458 00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,240 you first uh contacted charlie weiser 1459 00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,319 that's why you're here 1460 00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:34,319 um can you talk a little bit about that 1461 00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:36,400 and why you decided i'm just gonna go 1462 00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,400 public because 1463 00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,559 that's important part of the story 1464 00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,400 oh your flowers here i'll give you the 1465 00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:45,200 solo layout there purple 1466 00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:47,119 lavender right these are for these are 1467 00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:51,990 yeah 1468 00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:53,280 charlie's another 1469 00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,359 mysterious character here 1470 00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:56,720 so yeah why 1471 00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:01,829 after everybody was trying to find you 1472 00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:03,920 for so long why is it that you decided 1473 00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,000 to out yourself 1474 00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:08,400 uh because it well number one it was 1475 00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,480 just it was already getting out there we 1476 00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,400 we we were 1477 00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:14,240 we were figuring out that people were 1478 00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:15,839 figuring it out 1479 00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:18,079 uh number two 1480 00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:19,119 uh we 1481 00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:22,079 we saw something that was 1482 00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,960 uh some kind of lawsuit that was against 1483 00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:26,640 charlie weiser 1484 00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:28,559 and we were being listed as people in 1485 00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:35,270 yeah so you decided to contact charlotte 1486 00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:37,440 i was by angelee so it just pissed me 1487 00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,160 off 1488 00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:40,000 you're not you're not gonna that that 1489 00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:41,839 just that was over the top right there 1490 00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,599 so i decided to reach out to charlie 1491 00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,440 weiser to personally tell her that we 1492 00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:47,280 have nothing to do with this 1493 00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,359 and of course you know to 1494 00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,520 the trust to figure out that we're who 1495 00:57:54,789 --> 00:57:53,200 we are and you know 1496 00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,799 that we had to go through that motion a 1497 00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:56,240 little bit too just to make sure we are 1498 00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,240 who we are you know 1499 00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:00,400 yeah yeah but we that that can be 1500 00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:02,720 confirmed by the 911 call and also 1501 00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:05,440 anjali has confirmed that you are the 1502 00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:08,400 correct quote wayne unquote that she was 1503 00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:10,079 referencing she's admitted that on 1504 00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,599 twitter publicly 1505 00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:13,359 i by the way wished you well for the 1506 00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:16,079 interview and you know i don't i 1507 00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:17,760 yeah i guess thank you for that you know 1508 00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:20,160 and like i said i'm not here to bash 1509 00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:21,520 i'm not here to bash her you know i'm 1510 00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:23,359 not here to bash her i'm just here 1511 00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,680 basically to protect us 1512 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:27,599 yeah and tell your side of this thing 1513 00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:29,680 this story because obviously there's two 1514 00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:31,520 sides of it and her side is a very 1515 00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:33,119 fantastical 1516 00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:36,559 uh story but when when we 1517 00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:38,960 realized that she involved you and 1518 00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:40,960 claimed that you and your wife and 1519 00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:43,040 another couple were also in this 1520 00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,640 mountain it kind of 1521 00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:46,559 you know the story takes on 1522 00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:48,480 a different meaning when we pull away 1523 00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:50,720 these so-called witnesses that 1524 00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,359 dispute her telling of the events i 1525 00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:55,520 would i would assume 1526 00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:58,160 it kind of pokes an awful lot of holes 1527 00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:01,200 in the story now well i would think 1528 00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:02,240 you know 1529 00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:03,200 it's 1530 00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:05,520 um 1531 00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:06,960 i'm sure you know i'm sure there's other 1532 00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:08,720 mountains that there's 1533 00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:10,480 tunnels in you know and there's and 1534 00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:12,079 there's other how you know 1535 00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:13,680 as far as i'm concerned these beings 1536 00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:15,920 live under the earth anyway they're all 1537 00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,079 underneath us you know and over us and 1538 00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:20,319 in the sea you know in the snow in the 1539 00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:25,589 well i i mean 1540 00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:28,720 maybe they even live in the sun you know 1541 00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:31,520 yeah anything anything is possible sure 1542 00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:33,119 so 1543 00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:37,520 come out to charlie weiser and then that 1544 00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:39,760 brings you to me 1545 00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:41,119 don't you didn't you think that it was 1546 00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:42,640 kind of ridiculous because i don't know 1547 00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:44,799 if you know this but charlie wiser is in 1548 00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:46,960 australia so 1549 00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:49,040 uh anjali threatening to sue charlie 1550 00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:51,040 weiser who by the way is a researcher 1551 00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:53,040 and very very critical of anjali for 1552 00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:54,559 anybody that doesn't know she runs a 1553 00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:56,640 blog and sort of picks apart 1554 01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,240 everything that anjali has said and 1555 01:00:02,230 --> 01:00:00,880 shows inconsistencies in her story 1556 01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:02,240 but didn't you think it was kind of 1557 01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:03,760 ridiculous because 1558 01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:05,599 or improbable that she's actually going 1559 01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:07,599 to sue her because she would have to 1560 01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:09,839 like go to australia to sue somebody in 1561 01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:12,400 australia and she's american and 1562 01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:13,680 it doesn't it doesn't make a lot of 1563 01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,599 sense right 1564 01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:17,040 yeah but i didn't even think about it 1565 01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:18,559 like that you know because if somebody 1566 01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:19,920 wants to sue somebody and if they have 1567 01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:21,920 some money um all you gotta do is just 1568 01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:24,960 call a lawyer in that country right 1569 01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,200 yeah i guess you're right i mean that's 1570 01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:29,280 why there's lawyers and legal workers 1571 01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:30,480 you know so 1572 01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:33,200 and you know i just 1573 01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,440 i wasn't having that [\h__\h] that's all 1574 01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:39,280 yeah because apparently she was she was 1575 01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:40,960 going to use you guys as witnesses or 1576 01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:42,799 something to sue charlie weiser is that 1577 01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:45,040 the gist of it that's what i was getting 1578 01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:47,040 getting out of it so 1579 01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:48,480 we just went ahead and put a stop to 1580 01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:50,799 that and and here we are 1581 01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,480 and you were you were you communicated 1582 01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:54,000 to charlie weiser that you wouldn't be a 1583 01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:56,319 part of that right absolutely not 1584 01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:58,079 absolutely not 1585 01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:00,079 and have you and you and your wife sort 1586 01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,000 of you were following charlie weiser's 1587 01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:04,000 blog about some of this information 1588 01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:05,920 coming out and some other shows and 1589 01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:07,200 things like that 1590 01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:09,280 we've been following everybody 1591 01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:11,040 everybody 1592 01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:13,760 oh that would be quite surreal right 1593 01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:16,880 people on on on both sides just watching 1594 01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,200 everything you know mostly mostly my 1595 01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:21,359 wife she has she she reads a lot faster 1596 01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:22,480 than i do 1597 01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:23,680 so 1598 01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:27,920 know hey 1599 01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:29,359 look at this look at this look at that 1600 01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:31,440 you know and it's like wow a lot of this 1601 01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:33,839 is crazy you know so yeah we're trying 1602 01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:35,280 to brush it off 1603 01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:36,640 you know it went we went through a 1604 01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:38,319 stressful period you know where it was 1605 01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:40,000 just real stressful 1606 01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:41,599 we didn't know what to do we didn't know 1607 01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:43,200 what to think 1608 01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:45,520 um it was definitely making us lose 1609 01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:46,799 sleep 1610 01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:48,880 then then then there for a while we 1611 01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:49,920 thought that this was just going to go 1612 01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:51,599 away you know 1613 01:01:57,029 --> 01:01:53,680 because you know anjali was posting you 1614 01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:57,039 know more of guru stuff you know kind of 1615 01:02:00,630 --> 01:01:58,960 varying attention away from 1616 01:02:02,470 --> 01:02:00,640 this 1617 01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:02,480 and uh 1618 01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:04,079 i thought were you were you and your 1619 01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:05,920 were you and your wife surprised at the 1620 01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:07,680 amount of attention this story got 1621 01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:09,119 because you know there's 1622 01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:11,119 thousands of reddit posts thousands of 1623 01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:13,680 twitter posts there's podcasts talking 1624 01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:15,920 about this there's shows mine and others 1625 01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:18,079 talking about this or hosting her 1626 01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:19,680 talking about it 1627 01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:22,640 it's it's crazy it's it's nuts 1628 01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:24,559 i think it's amazing how about that it's 1629 01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:26,000 amazing 1630 01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:29,839 it is i mean she's got a lot of people 1631 01:02:32,950 --> 01:02:31,440 on this story but i mean you know in 1632 01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:32,960 order to back this up well she knows 1633 01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:34,960 what needs to be done 1634 01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:36,400 and did you find it did you find it 1635 01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:38,400 surprising that the story got this much 1636 01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:40,240 attention given that she had just her 1637 01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:43,280 story and no real physical evidence or 1638 01:02:48,309 --> 01:02:45,920 corroborating witnesses that would 1639 01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:48,319 you know i'm sorry i say it again did 1640 01:02:52,390 --> 01:02:50,319 you find it surprising that this story 1641 01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:52,400 got this much attention given that it 1642 01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,480 was just her story she didn't have 1643 01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:56,240 evidence she didn't have corroborating 1644 01:03:01,589 --> 01:02:57,920 witnesses that would come forward to 1645 01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:01,599 confirm what she was saying was true 1646 01:03:04,630 --> 01:03:03,119 i found it surprising that's why i was 1647 01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:04,640 wondering what you thought of it it was 1648 01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:07,119 it was very surprising because i mean it 1649 01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:08,880 was we were basically going off of what 1650 01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:11,839 she said and this is the way it is and 1651 01:03:14,829 --> 01:03:13,920 you just don't remember that's you know 1652 01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:14,839 that's 1653 01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,480 what 1654 01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:19,039 and lady vimana a kind and generous 1655 01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:21,359 super chatter is asking completely aside 1656 01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:23,680 from anjalee's situation has brian ever 1657 01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:25,200 seen a ufo 1658 01:03:29,029 --> 01:03:27,440 on his land or elsewhere 1659 01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:29,039 well you obviously have some interest in 1660 01:03:32,069 --> 01:03:30,480 this something 1661 01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:32,079 nothing other than what you see in the 1662 01:03:36,549 --> 01:03:34,799 skies you know like you know fast moving 1663 01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:36,559 objects that you can 1664 01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:38,480 you know say hey was that that i mean 1665 01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:40,000 that's that's about the extent of what 1666 01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:41,680 i've ever seen 1667 01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:43,039 you know wow 1668 01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:44,640 i'd love to i haven't seen anything on 1669 01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:46,000 my land 1670 01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:47,520 you know but as far as this i mean you 1671 01:03:51,910 --> 01:03:49,280 know the desert sky how many people have 1672 01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:51,920 seen a fast object in the desert sky or 1673 01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:53,920 any sky for that matter yeah i see 1674 01:03:58,390 --> 01:03:56,559 lights in the sky but i'm not i'm not 1675 01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:58,400 never that excited by just a light in 1676 01:04:01,670 --> 01:04:00,240 the sky you know right you know and 1677 01:04:03,510 --> 01:04:01,680 that's why i never really made no 1678 01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:03,520 mistake of it i mean you know 1679 01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:05,039 how do you know really what you saw 1680 01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:07,200 number one i mean you're gonna run out 1681 01:04:10,150 --> 01:04:08,559 there and say god dang it this is what 1682 01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:10,160 it is that's what it is you know i don't 1683 01:04:13,109 --> 01:04:11,680 know i mean you know i really don't know 1684 01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:13,119 how about that to answer that question i 1685 01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:15,920 don't know if i have or not i think i 1686 01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:20,789 and you know i hope so 1687 01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:23,119 the devil the devil brian they say is in 1688 01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:25,200 the details and i'm very i'm very 1689 01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:27,359 interested in the fact that people 1690 01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:30,720 are very very interested in the minutia 1691 01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,960 of parts of her story and one part of 1692 01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:34,799 her story is that 1693 01:04:39,910 --> 01:04:36,880 after her alien experience she was 1694 01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:39,920 teleported back to a place in your home 1695 01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:42,480 where there's a big archway and that you 1696 01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:44,960 said that's where the aliens teleport us 1697 01:04:47,990 --> 01:04:45,920 back to 1698 01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:48,000 is there an archway like that in your 1699 01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:49,119 home 1700 01:04:52,390 --> 01:04:50,480 and 1701 01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:52,400 but you said 1702 01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:53,760 have you ever felt like you were 1703 01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:55,760 teleported in or out of your home is 1704 01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:57,520 there that archway people are very 1705 01:05:02,710 --> 01:04:59,520 focused on this archway because she made 1706 01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:02,720 a big deal of this archway in your home 1707 01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:05,760 well it's not an archway it's just a 1708 01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:08,079 door it's a doorway that goes from one 1709 01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:09,520 side of the house to the other side of 1710 01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:11,440 the house that's it 1711 01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:13,520 and i guess you could call it a hallway 1712 01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:15,359 if that's what you want to call it it's 1713 01:05:18,789 --> 01:05:16,960 you you immediately step into another 1714 01:05:21,029 --> 01:05:18,799 room 1715 01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:21,039 um it used to be a hallway i guess 1716 01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:22,640 before i ripped all the walls out 1717 01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:25,520 there's no real walls there now so 1718 01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:27,119 um 1719 01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:29,039 but no it's not an arch it's just a 1720 01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:32,960 doorway a regular door 32 or you know 36 1721 01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:34,559 inch doorway 1722 01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:40,390 that's interesting and 1723 01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:43,280 people are uh so but she she really went 1724 01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:45,440 into detail about there being this real 1725 01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:48,400 distinctive archway i guess that wasn't 1726 01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:49,680 accurate then 1727 01:05:53,029 --> 01:05:51,599 or she remembered it wrong maybe well 1728 01:05:55,270 --> 01:05:53,039 that's that's what i'm saying this is 1729 01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:55,280 this is her experience you know this is 1730 01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:56,319 what she 1731 01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:58,000 experienced 1732 01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,039 so 1733 01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:01,200 as far as the physical 1734 01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:03,280 aspect of this story 1735 01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:06,240 the archway is square 1736 01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:11,750 okay and just to play the devil's 1737 01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:14,559 advocate i i wanted to ask you have you 1738 01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:16,400 have you experienced any strange or 1739 01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:19,359 paranormal activity in around your home 1740 01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:22,240 the mountain missing time or anything 1741 01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:24,319 like that 1742 01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:26,559 i wouldn't say missing time 1743 01:06:31,750 --> 01:06:27,520 or 1744 01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:31,760 definitely feel an energy here there's 1745 01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:33,760 definitely an energy 1746 01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:34,559 here 1747 01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:36,400 well that's interesting maybe she felt 1748 01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:38,799 it more than you 1749 01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:40,640 perhaps yeah but i mean is it but 1750 01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:41,760 there's energy 1751 01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:43,839 in a lot of places you know so i mean i 1752 01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:46,799 go hiking and there's energy so 1753 01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:48,319 i mean 1754 01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:51,119 is am i being 1755 01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:51,920 uh 1756 01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:57,430 i mean is that is that being too silly 1757 01:07:02,309 --> 01:07:00,720 by saying that i mean it isn't it 1758 01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:02,319 anywhere has energy you know what i mean 1759 01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:04,400 just not just my yard 1760 01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:06,160 and my mountain i mean i do feel good 1761 01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:07,839 here there is peace here there is 1762 01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:10,319 something here 1763 01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:11,920 well that's good that's good 1764 01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:18,309 a healing place exactly elite guy 1765 01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:20,640 breaking up the the seriousness asking 1766 01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:23,680 if you like bacon oh yeah i like bacon 1767 01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:25,359 i don't know what league guy is always 1768 01:07:29,829 --> 01:07:27,200 posting bacon he's a longtime show 1769 01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:29,839 supporter tell him 1770 01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:32,160 it's from the pig that i raised and i i 1771 01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:33,839 know where my bacon comes from how about 1772 01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,470 so uh you know 1773 01:07:43,589 --> 01:07:41,280 where where do you see this story going 1774 01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:43,599 next because i'm a little worried that 1775 01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:44,720 i thought 1776 01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:46,640 several times during this story that the 1777 01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:48,960 story would fall apart and end the first 1778 01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:50,000 part 1779 01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:52,400 time that i thought it would end is when 1780 01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:54,240 there would be no expedition because she 1781 01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:56,079 really hyped up this expedition and 1782 01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:57,200 we're going to bring you the proof of 1783 01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,520 the aliens and then that fell apart and 1784 01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:01,200 i thought the story was it would end but 1785 01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:03,359 you're right she sort of went into 1786 01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,839 sort of guru mode and started talking 1787 01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:07,440 about more general things that the 1788 01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:10,079 aliens she claims she's in telepathic 1789 01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:12,240 contact with her telling her 1790 01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:12,960 and 1791 01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:14,799 then i thought 1792 01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:16,319 you coming out 1793 01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:18,560 might be the end of the story but i'm a 1794 01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:20,960 little concerned that she's going to uh 1795 01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:23,199 it'll be like he said she said you know 1796 01:08:26,789 --> 01:08:24,880 she'll she'll 1797 01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:26,799 maybe try to excuse away your 1798 01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:29,600 recollection of events or 1799 01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:31,600 well that's fine she can go ahead and do 1800 01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,480 that but 1801 01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:34,400 again i wasn't the one in an ambulance 1802 01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,159 getting getting checked out for you know 1803 01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:40,319 for i don't know why you know why why 1804 01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:41,759 was she 1805 01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:46,719 sober here so um i think i think most of 1806 01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,600 us were more sober than her 1807 01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:51,359 wow and i didn't say the thing i wanted 1808 01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:54,239 to ask you are you aware that she took 1809 01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:56,159 anything other than what you had given 1810 01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:56,880 her 1811 01:09:02,149 --> 01:09:00,640 your purse i don't even know you 1812 01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,159 drinking alcohol i don't even think she 1813 01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:04,480 was drinking i but i can't but again i 1814 01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:06,480 can't i can't recollect 1815 01:09:10,309 --> 01:09:08,560 but she had claimed in an interview with 1816 01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:10,319 me that she was completely and totally 1817 01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:12,799 sober during this event you will dispute 1818 01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:13,600 that 1819 01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:22,640 and it i mean it's 1820 01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:24,239 it puts you in a good place how about 1821 01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:25,359 that 1822 01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,199 pretty obviously her in a really good 1823 01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:29,120 place you know that's that's how i see 1824 01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:30,080 it 1825 01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:33,040 so i mean if and and you know um 1826 01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:35,759 again i'm still open i'm open to 1827 01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:38,159 um you know i had a friend of mine 1828 01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:41,440 uh that was that was drunk 1829 01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:43,759 he he was real drunk or an old friend an 1830 01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:45,520 acquaintance an old 1831 01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:48,319 anyway uh but he had a he had a he he 1832 01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,080 died 1833 01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:52,880 when he was drunk like wasted he said he 1834 01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:55,040 was completely inebriated and he and he 1835 01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:57,440 had an accident and he drowned and he 1836 01:10:02,550 --> 01:09:59,920 died and he had the most amazing 1837 01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:02,560 near-death experience 1838 01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:04,400 so 1839 01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:09,030 i guess what i'm trying to say is i you 1840 01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:09,840 know 1841 01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:12,159 we could be inebriated on this side and 1842 01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:14,239 and and have an experience on that side 1843 01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:16,400 that's completely different so so 1844 01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:17,760 perhaps 1845 01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:21,840 something like that happened with her 1846 01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:23,760 you know i mean i don't know i i'm just 1847 01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:26,640 i'm who knows who knows all i all i know 1848 01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,880 is we didn't get to know anything about 1849 01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:31,199 this until recently so 1850 01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,440 yeah we didn't know anything about it 1851 01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:35,199 when it happened we didn't know we had 1852 01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:37,840 no clue of any we none of this was even 1853 01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:39,760 talked about so 1854 01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:43,199 um perhaps she had an experience 1855 01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:45,199 you know three years later or two years 1856 01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,239 later and this is what came in her mind 1857 01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:49,920 you know 1858 01:11:01,669 --> 01:10:59,679 yeah and did you did you watch her her 1859 01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:01,679 press release that she did at the 1860 01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:03,840 lincoln memorial 1861 01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:05,600 we didn't get the we didn't get the link 1862 01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:07,440 to it until a week after 1863 01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:10,320 so we watched it a week after 1864 01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:12,080 and we're surprised at the attention 1865 01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:14,000 that got well of course we were totally 1866 01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:15,920 surprised 1867 01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:18,640 couldn't believe what i mean we just 1868 01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:20,080 couldn't we were 1869 01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:23,360 completely taken back 1870 01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:25,199 i wanted to check and see what kind of 1871 01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:28,320 uh as i recall i've got a huge number of 1872 01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:29,760 views 1873 01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:34,880 [Laughter] 1874 01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:37,360 sixty thousand views wow 1875 01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:39,760 sixty thousand views yeah and you know 1876 01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:42,239 and she's believable you know she's 1877 01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:44,320 she's intelligent she's box intelligent 1878 01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:47,440 she's she's nice 1879 01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:49,920 connor brad kind of brady sent her 1880 01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:52,159 content and generous donation and says 1881 01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:55,360 can we keep brian and get rid of her 1882 01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,350 yeah you know i i i try to to be kind 1883 01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,360 and respectful towards her because you 1884 01:12:09,590 --> 01:12:07,360 know i don't wish for any ill will and i 1885 01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:09,600 i like the story but i i don't believe 1886 01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:11,199 that i didn't believe it was really true 1887 01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:13,199 from the beginning and and i got a lot 1888 01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:14,960 of flack for even covering this story 1889 01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:17,600 but my interest was that i was wrong and 1890 01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:19,440 i put my mouth in gear before i had 1891 01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:22,080 facts in hand i said her background's 1892 01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:23,920 probably fake she didn't work there and 1893 01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:25,360 then i started digging in and failed out 1894 01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:27,520 that i was wrong about her education and 1895 01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:29,760 her background and her work history 1896 01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:32,400 and uh but people really are 1897 01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:34,000 a little vicious towards her i don't 1898 01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:35,520 know if you're aware but there's like 1899 01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,920 memes on the internet of like ufo 1900 01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:40,080 twitter throwing her out of a car 1901 01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:41,199 you know like 1902 01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:43,040 some people are very 1903 01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:45,360 some people don't take what they believe 1904 01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:47,600 to be her fabricating this story very 1905 01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:50,960 kindly and they've been a little nasty 1906 01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:53,520 to return well they should all chill out 1907 01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:55,360 a little bit you know there's no reason 1908 01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:57,679 to be nasty to anybody 1909 01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:03,590 perhaps perhaps she's created that 1910 01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:06,080 though you know as far as why people are 1911 01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:08,000 pissed off you know 1912 01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:09,679 i've seen her go back and forth on some 1913 01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:11,360 things i've seen her 1914 01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:13,120 i've seen her not be honest with you 1915 01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:15,440 everybody saw that i think that i think 1916 01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:16,560 that 1917 01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:19,520 um kind of discredited her there when 1918 01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:21,920 when you were lied to i think that was a 1919 01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:23,360 turning point 1920 01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:24,640 yeah but i suppose that her 1921 01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:27,520 justification for doing so in protecting 1922 01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:28,480 you 1923 01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:31,280 a good 1924 01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:33,760 justification and steve k is asking when 1925 01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:36,080 did it become clear that you brian had 1926 01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:38,800 become wayne when did you first 1927 01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:40,480 hear her talking about trisha and wayne 1928 01:13:44,709 --> 01:13:42,880 and connect the dots and say she told 1929 01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:44,719 she told us she told me she 1930 01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:46,560 she told us that she 1931 01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:49,520 changed our names at wayne and trisha 1932 01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:50,800 before that 1933 01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:54,239 before she was going to washington 1934 01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:56,880 wow but we didn't know what really was 1935 01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:59,360 going on in washington you know 1936 01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:00,880 she just said she was going to go share 1937 01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:02,880 her story 1938 01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:05,040 you know we we didn't know the extent of 1939 01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:07,520 this story we didn't know this story she 1940 01:14:12,070 --> 01:14:10,000 just told us her experience but it 1941 01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:12,080 wasn't it wasn't 1942 01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:14,400 we didn't get all the details like she 1943 01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:17,040 gave at the press conference 1944 01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:18,719 when we when we talked 1945 01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:22,640 the one time before that conference 1946 01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:23,840 interesting 1947 01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:26,400 and i guess it had to feel like you 1948 01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:27,600 definitely 1949 01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:29,360 felt a little threatened by her because 1950 01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:31,120 she's saying i work for the government 1951 01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:33,920 and we're going to do this expedition 1952 01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:36,320 one way or the other yeah we feel we we 1953 01:14:39,669 --> 01:14:38,800 have we still feel threatened 1954 01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:39,679 actually 1955 01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:42,400 we're still on guard 1956 01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:43,760 is 1957 01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:45,760 are you are you threatened by her or do 1958 01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:48,320 you feel threatened by what chaos and 1959 01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,640 circus she might bring to your home 1960 01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:52,560 both her all 1961 01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:54,320 all the above not so much her i don't 1962 01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:56,800 think she has any ill will i think that 1963 01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:59,679 i think that some of her fans may you 1964 01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:01,040 know because of some of the comments 1965 01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:03,040 that we have read out there 1966 01:15:06,310 --> 01:15:05,120 towards us 1967 01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:06,320 you know 1968 01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:08,719 which i'm not digging so 1969 01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:10,719 uh if anything 1970 01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,679 go ahead 1971 01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:13,679 there's a funny part to her story in 1972 01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:16,640 that she said and and and of course 1973 01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,880 she's very uh i suppose politically 1974 01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:20,880 correct and said that we shouldn't call 1975 01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:22,880 the aliens aliens because they don't 1976 01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:28,229 apparently aliens don't hate that we 1977 01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:31,120 call them aliens right well i i have no 1978 01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:34,400 idea well [\h__\h] what do we call them then 1979 01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:36,719 yeah we call them we could be the aliens 1980 01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:38,560 maybe we're the aliens maybe maybe we're 1981 01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:39,600 the 1982 01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:44,630 yeah so 1983 01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,400 you know i i don't know where we go from 1984 01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:48,400 here what what are your plans for the 1985 01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,159 future concerning this story because 1986 01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:52,480 today is a big thing for you to come out 1987 01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:54,320 in public and say 1988 01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,480 this is who i really am this is what 1989 01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:58,719 really happened this is my recollection 1990 01:16:02,709 --> 01:15:59,920 of events 1991 01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:02,719 but but what's next you know because 1992 01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:04,960 unfortunately brian you know that true 1993 01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:07,199 believers are already saying things like 1994 01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:09,760 maybe the men in black got to you and 1995 01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,000 you know threatened you and not talk 1996 01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:14,480 about the aliens or you got paid off by 1997 01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:16,000 somebody or 1998 01:16:19,990 --> 01:16:18,159 they do these mental gymnastics because 1999 01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:20,000 they love the story so much and they 2000 01:16:24,390 --> 01:16:22,000 don't want to see it fall apart 2001 01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:24,400 but what what's next for you and your 2002 01:16:27,669 --> 01:16:26,080 wife you just 2003 01:16:30,709 --> 01:16:27,679 i don't 2004 01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:30,719 go on with life i i hope uh 2005 01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:33,600 you know um 2006 01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:34,800 i don't know maybe we'll just start 2007 01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,800 digging in the mountain after all and uh 2008 01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:38,640 maybe maybe i'll run into something and 2009 01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,440 then 2010 01:16:43,350 --> 01:16:41,280 i'll start 2011 01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:43,360 call the history channel get a tv show 2012 01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:44,880 go away 2013 01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:46,400 i am gonna dig in the damn mountain you 2014 01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:48,560 know you know now now now the whole time 2015 01:16:51,990 --> 01:16:50,159 i'm digging i'm gonna you know i'm not 2016 01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:52,000 just gonna be looking for water 2017 01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:53,440 i'm gonna hope i'm not gonna hit one of 2018 01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:00,790 you mentioned you mentioned your 2019 01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:02,880 children what did your children think 2020 01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:04,960 because you had to share this story with 2021 01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:06,719 them like what did your children think 2022 01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:08,960 when they started seeing their dad had 2023 01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:11,360 an alien mountain and their mom met 2024 01:17:15,830 --> 01:17:13,920 aliens and well and the stories all over 2025 01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:15,840 the internet like what did your children 2026 01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:17,520 say or think 2027 01:17:21,669 --> 01:17:19,280 well i got three daughters three grown 2028 01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:21,679 daughters and uh 2029 01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:23,600 one of them has nothing to say the other 2030 01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:25,840 one doesn't really know what to say and 2031 01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:27,360 the other one is throwing a full-on 2032 01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:30,480 watch party right now with all her girls 2033 01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:33,040 well greetings and salutations brian's 2034 01:17:38,950 --> 01:17:37,120 daughters good to have you viewing here 2035 01:17:40,870 --> 01:17:38,960 yeah i wish i can see what's going on 2036 01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:40,880 out there i guess they really they got 2037 01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:42,239 t-shirts made and they're they're 2038 01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:45,120 dressed up in lavy suits and purple lavy 2039 01:17:52,390 --> 01:17:50,709 with alien piss and for drinks you know 2040 01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:52,400 they they took mountain dew bottles i 2041 01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:55,920 guess and change the labels and 2042 01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:58,400 anyway and before before i forget i want 2043 01:18:01,590 --> 01:17:59,840 to make sure that i remind people 2044 01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:01,600 because we've got a lot of new viewers 2045 01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:03,120 maybe first time viewers here that if 2046 01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:05,679 you enjoy these kind of strange 2047 01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:09,280 stories about the uh the world of aliens 2048 01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:12,880 ufos the paranormal please do like and 2049 01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:14,400 share this video and make sure that you 2050 01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:16,960 subscribe and hit the notification bell 2051 01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,960 and then you'll know every time we do a 2052 01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:20,640 live show and you're welcome here to 2053 01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:22,320 come to our live chat 2054 01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:24,159 we have so many people on our live chat 2055 01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:26,400 are asking questions so i wanted to ask 2056 01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:28,159 you if you'd be okay with taking some 2057 01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:30,400 questions from the live chatters all 2058 01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:31,440 right so 2059 01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:33,920 friends here's your chance it's not just 2060 01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:35,520 me that gets to take this journey you 2061 01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:37,840 get to take it with us questions for 2062 01:18:42,070 --> 01:18:40,640 brian put your questions in all capital 2063 01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:42,080 letters you guys know i'm a little bit 2064 01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:44,080 visually impaired so when you put it in 2065 01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,840 all capital letters i know right away 2066 01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:47,280 that's a question 2067 01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:48,239 for 2068 01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,159 our guest tonight and he'd be happy to 2069 01:18:54,630 --> 01:18:51,840 answer some of your questions the six 2070 01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:54,640 senses here reminding everybody about 2071 01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:57,600 our facebook page um 2072 01:19:03,669 --> 01:19:00,000 one second 2073 01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:03,679 so i saw questions before 2074 01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:05,679 kathy knight i see you 2075 01:19:16,790 --> 01:19:13,350 mr catfish says harness alien piss for 2076 01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:16,800 drinking good idea uh that i i i don't i 2077 01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:19,360 don't really know 2078 01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:22,719 so questions for brian put him in all 2079 01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:24,480 capital letters drock says sounds like 2080 01:19:29,110 --> 01:19:27,600 brian has the ufo version of oak island 2081 01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:29,120 yeah that's been going for like seven 2082 01:19:34,149 --> 01:19:31,120 seasons and all they found was one 2083 01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:34,159 single spanish coin so 2084 01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:35,760 maybe there's something in that mountain 2085 01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:39,040 you can cash in on this right definitely 2086 01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:41,440 cash in on this i hate to disappoint 2087 01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:46,709 all right one second here so okay good 2088 01:19:51,830 --> 01:19:50,080 we do have some questions here 2089 01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:51,840 says can i come and live on your land i 2090 01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:54,400 need some peace i think nutters like you 2091 01:20:02,229 --> 01:20:00,550 yeah i'm sorry joe 2092 01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:02,239 somebody's asking if you slept with 2093 01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:05,440 female aliens that's a little intimate 2094 01:20:10,550 --> 01:20:08,880 yeah i have a to my knowledge i i really 2095 01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:10,560 can't even answer that either i mean who 2096 01:20:14,629 --> 01:20:12,880 knows 2097 01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:14,639 well i've slept with some strange women 2098 01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:16,239 for all i know some of them were aliens 2099 01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:17,679 right that's exactly what i'm getting at 2100 01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,310 paul cargo this is a good question a lot 2101 01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:24,480 of people have been very critical of 2102 01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:27,199 this story and i remember when the story 2103 01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:29,040 broke a lot of people were saying this 2104 01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:30,960 story's got to be fake because who takes 2105 01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:33,040 a perfect stranger home 2106 01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:35,280 after just meeting them 2107 01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:37,760 why did you take home a perfect stranger 2108 01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:39,840 yeah yes i i do things like that 2109 01:20:44,629 --> 01:20:42,400 sometimes i just i don't know um 2110 01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:44,639 that i i don't do that anymore how about 2111 01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:46,239 that 2112 01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:48,080 it makes sense 2113 01:20:52,149 --> 01:20:50,080 but they're you know i i felt safe with 2114 01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:52,159 that you know that's all 2115 01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:53,199 it's uh 2116 01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:54,639 we're right down the street from this 2117 01:20:58,149 --> 01:20:56,480 place it's it uh 2118 01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:58,159 yeah it doesn't happen often uh it 2119 01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:00,800 doesn't happen anymore how about that 2120 01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:02,400 but uh there for a minute i was just 2121 01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:04,480 feeling friendly i suppose 2122 01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:06,000 tony uk 2123 01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:08,639 with a great question because uh 2124 01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:10,880 anjali had mentioned that you're very 2125 01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:12,960 qualified to dig tunnels and mountains 2126 01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:15,280 because you have all these tools so tony 2127 01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:17,840 uk is asking does brian have secret 2128 01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:20,000 covert digging equipment and hidden 2129 01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:21,520 tools 2130 01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:24,560 uh nope i gotta pick a shovel 2131 01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:26,080 that's about it 2132 01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:27,520 digging bars 2133 01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:29,920 we got maybe some jackhammers i suppose 2134 01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:32,239 if i really want to we do have a con 2135 01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:33,920 construction company so we got cool 2136 01:21:40,950 --> 01:21:38,229 yeah i have a friend at my cabin that 2137 01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,960 has a bobcat and a lot of cool fun toys 2138 01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:43,040 i envy him you know because when you 2139 01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:44,320 have those kind of toys you can do 2140 01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:47,120 amazing things like instead of spreading 2141 01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:49,040 two tons of gravel by hand you can do it 2142 01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:51,440 in five minutes with a bobcat you know 2143 01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:53,600 yeah it's a hydraulic shovel i call it i 2144 01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:57,280 like the hydraulic shovels 2145 01:22:01,910 --> 01:21:59,520 yeah and uh indiana indiana is asking 2146 01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:01,920 when did brian and anjali's takes start 2147 01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:03,120 to diverge 2148 01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,639 was it from when you all returned to 2149 01:22:07,910 --> 01:22:06,239 brian's house 2150 01:22:09,910 --> 01:22:07,920 so her story is 2151 01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:09,920 accurate and correct according to you 2152 01:22:13,189 --> 01:22:12,159 until we get to the aliens right it's 2153 01:22:15,669 --> 01:22:13,199 just 2154 01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:15,679 that's where the divergence happens yeah 2155 01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:17,679 she's she's right about meeting you at 2156 01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:19,840 the coffee house talking and then coming 2157 01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:23,280 back to your home but then things get 2158 01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:24,639 different right 2159 01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:26,320 the only thing that got different about 2160 01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:28,159 it is the ambulance came and stuff and 2161 01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:29,520 that kind of definitely changed the 2162 01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:31,920 energy you know so 2163 01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:37,110 you know when you when you when 2164 01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:39,280 everybody's all buzzed up and you know 2165 01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,480 and i say you know you got a sheriff 2166 01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:42,320 here in an ambulance here on on the 2167 01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:44,800 stranger that we just brought home 2168 01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:46,880 uh that i guess that would be where the 2169 01:22:52,629 --> 01:22:49,520 diverge started 2170 01:22:54,149 --> 01:22:52,639 maybe with some people here 2171 01:22:56,790 --> 01:22:54,159 spooky morales 2172 01:23:02,470 --> 01:22:56,800 is asking did anjali ever have time on 2173 01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:04,229 lord ludacris plaid 2174 01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:05,760 says does brian have any neighbors and 2175 01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:07,600 if so what do they all think of this are 2176 01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:08,880 they aware 2177 01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:11,360 we have we we don't we don't really have 2178 01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:13,199 we have like one neighbor but we have 2179 01:23:17,110 --> 01:23:15,360 big parcels so we're pretty far apart 2180 01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:17,120 and no nobody was aware of any of this 2181 01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:19,520 because we don't really see each other 2182 01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:22,320 can't really see our places 2183 01:23:27,189 --> 01:23:24,560 i think wealthy is a relative term but 2184 01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:27,199 william k is asking is brian wealthy i'm 2185 01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:29,679 sure angelique claimed he was very rich 2186 01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:32,320 no i'm not wealthy i'm wealthy in spirit 2187 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:42,310 yeah i i think that's a uh 2188 01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:44,149 yeah he's kind of answered you've kind 2189 01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:45,600 of answered this but 2190 01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:47,280 hello all in all 2191 01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:49,120 all in all brian do you think that she 2192 01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:56,149 all in all she is so convinced that i i 2193 01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,040 mean 2194 01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:59,280 i did i wish i would have saw it so i 2195 01:24:02,790 --> 01:24:00,880 really don't know what to say with that 2196 01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:02,800 i don't think she did 2197 01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:05,360 but who am i to say that 2198 01:24:08,950 --> 01:24:06,960 is for her 2199 01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:08,960 mind you know 2200 01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:11,520 so all in all i really don't know but i 2201 01:24:14,830 --> 01:24:13,040 would have to say 2202 01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:14,840 if she did that's 2203 01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:17,920 great um 2204 01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:25,510 this is all should be squashed now right 2205 01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:28,000 scott brown is asking brian what did 2206 01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:30,159 anjali's boyfriend think of the false 2207 01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:31,040 story 2208 01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:32,880 i don't know 2209 01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:36,239 dude he didn't come up here he he 2210 01:24:41,669 --> 01:24:39,199 from the coffee shop 2211 01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:41,679 and uh when he came to pick her up we 2212 01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:43,280 didn't there was no words exchanged she 2213 01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:45,040 just got in his car 2214 01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:48,320 and they took off and then the next day 2215 01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:49,920 when they came back to get her car 2216 01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,320 that's all they did i mean it was 2217 01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:54,320 they pulled up they she got in her car 2218 01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:55,920 and they took off 2219 01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:57,520 and it was tied 2220 01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:59,760 no there was no conversation i didn't 2221 01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:01,840 even meet the guy i don't even think i 2222 01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:03,120 should i didn't even shake his hand or 2223 01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:04,560 anything i didn't even know i didn't 2224 01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:06,000 know his name 2225 01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:08,239 so i don't know what he thought the 2226 01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:09,679 hutch wants to know if you could start 2227 01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:11,600 your own ufo cult so he can join that 2228 01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:15,120 one instead of oh no no no no 2229 01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:17,120 you're the guy with the mountain man you 2230 01:25:21,830 --> 01:25:19,120 can cash in you can you know have sky 2231 01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:21,840 watches and right we'll talk about tours 2232 01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:24,000 after here we'll talk about some tours 2233 01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:26,320 maybe 2234 01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:29,360 let us get some some tunnels doug first 2235 01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:30,880 you know amy collins has got an 2236 01:25:35,110 --> 01:25:32,719 interesting question she says what is 2237 01:25:38,229 --> 01:25:35,120 brian's pedigree as far as other 2238 01:25:40,629 --> 01:25:38,239 paranormal new age or ufo et stories he 2239 01:25:41,590 --> 01:25:40,639 has read or followed have you been a fan 2240 01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:41,600 of some 2241 01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:44,080 of this stuff um just ancient aliens i 2242 01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:46,960 guess i like i i'm a big fan of h aliens 2243 01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:49,520 and i watch that all the time and 2244 01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:52,840 i'm in any other show that i can find i 2245 01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:56,639 guess and interesting and kelly 2246 01:26:01,350 --> 01:25:58,800 well this is this is a good question i 2247 01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:01,360 guess uh have you considered any legal 2248 01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:03,920 action against anjali 2249 01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:06,080 well we've talked to a couple lawyers 2250 01:26:12,229 --> 01:26:09,520 about some things so we we're we're 2251 01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:12,239 uh we don't know we're we're definitely 2252 01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:17,830 interesting and b baker is asking did 2253 01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:20,320 this strange behavior from anjali and 2254 01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:27,110 um 2255 01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:28,320 yes 2256 01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:32,800 as far as the ufo community well you 2257 01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:35,120 can't be surprised with that because 2258 01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:36,239 they're just 2259 01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:38,400 just listening and following somebody's 2260 01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:39,679 story 2261 01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:41,280 so i mean of course people are going to 2262 01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:43,120 be on that story so 2263 01:26:49,950 --> 01:26:46,159 but as far as a strange behavior from uh 2264 01:26:51,830 --> 01:26:49,960 anjali yes um 2265 01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:51,840 [Music] 2266 01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:01,830 i'm sorry i'm scanning the uh 2267 01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:04,159 people are asking some questions uh let 2268 01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:07,360 me see if we get a few more here 2269 01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:10,320 the do you read any ufo books rugged 2270 01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:13,360 sources asked um i have some but i 2271 01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:15,360 haven't got to them yet so they're 2272 01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:17,199 they're on the shelf 2273 01:27:22,390 --> 01:27:19,120 that's interesting like maybe i ought to 2274 01:27:24,950 --> 01:27:22,400 read up on this now that i'm the alien 2275 01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:24,960 uh messiah here and i'm the guy with the 2276 01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:26,960 mountain right there 2277 01:27:33,189 --> 01:27:29,040 i'm gonna i'm gonna up my ufo life for 2278 01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:35,990 uh 2279 01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:39,520 question was the ambulance driver 2280 01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:41,760 sheriff wearing lavender or smelled like 2281 01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:44,000 lavender 2282 01:27:48,229 --> 01:27:46,400 some people have recounted that maybe 2283 01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:48,239 she was having some kind of a psychotic 2284 01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:50,800 break or something and her being in that 2285 01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:53,280 ambulance is what caused the some of the 2286 01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:55,440 story like that the aliens laid her on a 2287 01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:58,560 table and put her out of her body and 2288 01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:01,040 they're not wearing purple uniforms i 2289 01:28:04,629 --> 01:28:02,800 didn't go in the ambulance so i didn't 2290 01:28:06,709 --> 01:28:04,639 see who was in there that could have 2291 01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:06,719 been an alien in there i don't know but 2292 01:28:09,510 --> 01:28:08,719 me and the sheriff were talking outside 2293 01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:09,520 and 2294 01:28:15,510 --> 01:28:11,360 he was wearing his uniform didn't i 2295 01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:15,520 didn't get close enough to smell him 2296 01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:17,600 and steve k with a great question was 2297 01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:20,400 she awake the whole time at your place 2298 01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:22,320 was there any time that you didn't see 2299 01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:23,840 her 2300 01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:25,600 uh 2301 01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:27,120 she was awake the whole time and there 2302 01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:29,040 was no time that i there was not any 2303 01:28:32,950 --> 01:28:31,920 time that i did not see her 2304 01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:32,960 in fact 2305 01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:39,280 uh my wife went to bed and it was just 2306 01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:42,400 anjali and i for a couple hours 2307 01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:44,800 bullshitting in the living room 2308 01:28:50,470 --> 01:28:48,320 waiting for her ride to show up 2309 01:28:52,310 --> 01:28:50,480 interesting and water for life this is 2310 01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:52,320 actually a good question says do you 2311 01:28:57,669 --> 01:28:54,840 think her mental status has changed or 2312 01:28:59,430 --> 01:28:57,679 digressed since you met her 2313 01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:59,440 i couldn't tell you that because i met 2314 01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:01,040 her one time 2315 01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:03,840 uh what three years ago plus 2316 01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:06,320 and we've had a couple conversations on 2317 01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:07,760 the phone here 2318 01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:09,199 recently so 2319 01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:10,800 i wouldn't be able to answer that 2320 01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:12,639 question as i don't think i know her 2321 01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:14,719 well enough 2322 01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:16,239 okay another question and i'm gonna 2323 01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:18,800 preface this question a lot of people 2324 01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:21,360 have suggested uh that you should 2325 01:29:26,149 --> 01:29:24,080 consider hypnotic regression and people 2326 01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:26,159 are asking would you consider a hypnotic 2327 01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:27,600 regression 2328 01:29:32,310 --> 01:29:30,080 um but i i tend to caution people 2329 01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:32,320 against that because i i don't know that 2330 01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:34,320 that's really 2331 01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:35,760 you know especially some of these 2332 01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:38,000 hypnotic regret regressors that see 2333 01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:40,080 aliens everywhere like the woman that 2334 01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:43,120 anjali went to barbara lamb 2335 01:29:47,030 --> 01:29:44,960 barbara lam almost every time she 2336 01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:47,040 hypnotically regresses somebody they 2337 01:29:50,629 --> 01:29:49,600 recall alien experiences 2338 01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:50,639 so 2339 01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:53,199 i mean would you consider that i would 2340 01:29:57,430 --> 01:29:54,800 consider it i've been considering i've 2341 01:29:59,430 --> 01:29:57,440 been considering uh getting hypnotized 2342 01:30:05,030 --> 01:29:59,440 um 2343 01:30:06,629 --> 01:30:05,040 i just 2344 01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:06,639 again i'm real 2345 01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:08,639 protective about who you know who i'm 2346 01:30:12,790 --> 01:30:11,120 going to share that energy with so 2347 01:30:14,629 --> 01:30:12,800 oh and here's a great question and i 2348 01:30:16,229 --> 01:30:14,639 knew this would come up and uh i would 2349 01:30:18,790 --> 01:30:16,239 ask this one myself would you be 2350 01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:18,800 prepared to do a show with her 2351 01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:20,800 well of course i would 2352 01:30:24,070 --> 01:30:21,679 okay 2353 01:30:25,750 --> 01:30:24,080 yeah well the door's open you know she's 2354 01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:25,760 gonna do an interview here tomorrow but 2355 01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:28,480 she made me agree that there would be no 2356 01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:30,719 no other people involved no surprise 2357 01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:33,760 guests no co-hosts no panelists or just 2358 01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:35,120 me and her 2359 01:30:39,510 --> 01:30:37,440 but i i'll ask her tomorrow if she would 2360 01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:39,520 agree to appear with you 2361 01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:41,520 maybe that would be helpful 2362 01:30:46,070 --> 01:30:44,159 did you tell anjali that you excavated a 2363 01:30:48,070 --> 01:30:46,080 tunnel on your land i think we've been 2364 01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:48,080 over that but no i never told her 2365 01:30:53,510 --> 01:30:49,920 anything like that because i wouldn't 2366 01:30:55,990 --> 01:30:53,520 tell anybody something i didn't do 2367 01:30:58,709 --> 01:30:56,000 you know i'm going to one day i am going 2368 01:31:02,470 --> 01:30:58,719 to excavate a tunnel 2369 01:31:07,350 --> 01:31:04,229 man well let us know if you find aliens 2370 01:31:10,550 --> 01:31:07,360 and i'm on a plane there brian 2371 01:31:11,590 --> 01:31:10,560 i call man i want the exclusive 2372 01:31:13,910 --> 01:31:11,600 obviously 2373 01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:13,920 we'll do your show with them in the cave 2374 01:31:19,189 --> 01:31:17,120 we can stream it yeah ash pollard says 2375 01:31:21,030 --> 01:31:19,199 how did her daughter i think anjali 2376 01:31:22,790 --> 01:31:21,040 answered this but how did her daughter 2377 01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:22,800 know brian's address for the welfare 2378 01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:23,760 check 2379 01:31:26,550 --> 01:31:25,280 yes 2380 01:31:28,629 --> 01:31:26,560 didn't she 2381 01:31:34,229 --> 01:31:28,639 yeah she asked us for her address when 2382 01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:35,990 yeah somebody i don't know why but uh 2383 01:31:39,030 --> 01:31:37,679 people are asking what you think about 2384 01:31:42,790 --> 01:31:39,040 max 2385 01:31:44,790 --> 01:31:42,800 that would be our partner or boyfriend 2386 01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:44,800 um well i don't know really what to 2387 01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:46,960 think about max i just i just don't know 2388 01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:49,760 if max um 2389 01:31:54,950 --> 01:31:52,480 i don't know uh max max is obviously 2390 01:31:56,870 --> 01:31:54,960 your partner but i don't know max i just 2391 01:32:01,189 --> 01:31:56,880 i just don't know if me and max would 2392 01:32:04,149 --> 01:32:02,629 just so you know people here have a 2393 01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:04,159 sense of humor somebody wants you to 2394 01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:11,030 sometimes you're not aware of this but 2395 01:32:14,629 --> 01:32:12,880 sometimes people put the questions up 2396 01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:14,639 just to like make me go what what is 2397 01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:15,520 that 2398 01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:17,520 what are they asking you know they're 2399 01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:20,480 punk and me they're not you know 2400 01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:22,000 that's funny 2401 01:32:26,149 --> 01:32:24,239 yeah and uh joe just with an observation 2402 01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:26,159 says brian will you please not consider 2403 01:32:30,310 --> 01:32:28,080 hypnotic regression it has been debunked 2404 01:32:31,830 --> 01:32:30,320 repeatedly yeah that's a real hot button 2405 01:32:33,990 --> 01:32:31,840 issue because some people believe that 2406 01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:34,000 the regressors just 2407 01:32:38,629 --> 01:32:36,239 make suggestions that make people recall 2408 01:32:40,870 --> 01:32:38,639 memories that aren't true or accurate 2409 01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:40,880 right i wouldn't like i said i wouldn't 2410 01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:42,800 do it i really don't need to do it for 2411 01:32:47,110 --> 01:32:44,560 any kind of um 2412 01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:47,120 uh beings 2413 01:32:51,189 --> 01:32:49,520 uh you know because i i know they exist 2414 01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:51,199 so it's i'm not i'm not questioning 2415 01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:53,360 their existence 2416 01:32:58,870 --> 01:32:56,000 uh it'd be for other you know 2417 01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:58,880 psychological [\h__\h] you know i don't know 2418 01:33:01,669 --> 01:33:00,239 why somebody's asking this i don't 2419 01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:01,679 recall her saying that you did but 2420 01:33:06,470 --> 01:33:04,000 somebody is asking did you show your id 2421 01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:06,480 to anjali at the coffee shop you know 2422 01:33:10,709 --> 01:33:08,400 she said she claims we did but i don't 2423 01:33:13,510 --> 01:33:10,719 know i mean maybe i don't i don't 2424 01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:13,520 recollect that but that's it i don't 2425 01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:15,280 uh 2426 01:33:18,470 --> 01:33:17,120 i don't remember 2427 01:33:20,310 --> 01:33:18,480 how about that okay 2428 01:33:23,669 --> 01:33:20,320 any other questions for brian please put 2429 01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:23,679 them in all caps um that really does 2430 01:33:27,590 --> 01:33:25,440 help 2431 01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:27,600 we cover an awful lot of ground here i'm 2432 01:33:31,990 --> 01:33:30,080 not i'm not sure where to go where to go 2433 01:33:34,709 --> 01:33:32,000 next with you 2434 01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:34,719 but you didn't joke about uh doing sky 2435 01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:37,040 watches or um 2436 01:33:40,870 --> 01:33:38,560 or doing these 2437 01:33:43,350 --> 01:33:40,880 maybe a tours right 2438 01:33:44,870 --> 01:33:43,360 yeah you never know let's uh you know 2439 01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:44,880 i'd rather just have somebody go ahead 2440 01:33:51,750 --> 01:33:50,070 yeah let them worry about finding those 2441 01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:51,760 aliens right 2442 01:33:56,149 --> 01:33:54,000 and they can do all of it uh 2443 01:33:58,629 --> 01:33:56,159 angelique can go ahead and you know they 2444 01:34:00,310 --> 01:33:58,639 can go ahead and start they can start it 2445 01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:00,320 all they got to do is you know they know 2446 01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:02,080 what they got to do 2447 01:34:10,550 --> 01:34:08,470 yeah somebody michael mayhall is asking 2448 01:34:11,709 --> 01:34:10,560 do you have or have you had any 2449 01:34:13,830 --> 01:34:11,719 paranormal 2450 01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:13,840 experiences that you are comfortable 2451 01:34:20,310 --> 01:34:17,600 sharing i i wish i did have any i wish i 2452 01:34:22,229 --> 01:34:20,320 did you know i've only had uh i've had a 2453 01:34:23,270 --> 01:34:22,239 near-death experience and that's but i 2454 01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:23,280 don't know if that counts as a 2455 01:34:27,030 --> 01:34:25,120 paranormal so 2456 01:34:29,669 --> 01:34:27,040 um 2457 01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:29,679 uh no i don't really have any paranormal 2458 01:34:34,629 --> 01:34:32,560 experiences that is you know worth 2459 01:34:35,830 --> 01:34:34,639 really trying to share 2460 01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:35,840 about that 2461 01:34:43,669 --> 01:34:37,520 charlie weiser's here in our live chat 2462 01:34:49,109 --> 01:34:47,270 and robert uh baratheon asks uh this is 2463 01:34:51,669 --> 01:34:49,119 very human question what's your favorite 2464 01:34:54,550 --> 01:34:51,679 band or type of music 2465 01:34:59,270 --> 01:34:54,560 uh well i'm you know i'm always i always 2466 01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:01,750 i like the flute i i like a lot of music 2467 01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:03,520 actually i like i like old country i 2468 01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:06,800 like hard uh stuff sometimes uh but 2469 01:35:10,149 --> 01:35:09,119 mostly mellow mostly mellow these days 2470 01:35:12,070 --> 01:35:10,159 um 2471 01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:12,080 a lot of flute 2472 01:35:16,550 --> 01:35:14,960 uh acoustic guitar i like to play the 2473 01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:16,560 guitar 2474 01:35:21,350 --> 01:35:17,920 well there you go 2475 01:35:24,510 --> 01:35:21,360 drock is asking uh at any time did 2476 01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,520 anjali appear to be in a disoriented or 2477 01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:26,960 disassociated state like having micro 2478 01:35:31,109 --> 01:35:30,320 seizures not no not like that 2479 01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:31,119 no 2480 01:35:35,590 --> 01:35:34,480 just disoriented i would say 2481 01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:35,600 um 2482 01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:38,880 too much cannabis is what it was 2483 01:35:44,149 --> 01:35:42,400 yeah so your but your recollection of 2484 01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:44,159 of her state of mind is that she was 2485 01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:47,679 very inebriated on this cannabis oil 2486 01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:50,719 impaired would you say 2487 01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:52,480 well she wasn't feeling good and that's 2488 01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:54,719 usually like what that's that's that's 2489 01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:56,560 one of the the symptoms when you've had 2490 01:36:00,950 --> 01:35:58,560 too much you know um 2491 01:36:04,310 --> 01:36:00,960 you know you get you get the spins uh 2492 01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:04,320 some people get nauseous um so she was 2493 01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:07,360 kind of feeling like that i think 2494 01:36:12,390 --> 01:36:10,560 that's and and you know um but she 2495 01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:12,400 appeared to be walking just fine it 2496 01:36:15,910 --> 01:36:14,320 wasn't like she was having a problem 2497 01:36:18,149 --> 01:36:15,920 walking because she walked out to the 2498 01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:18,159 ambulance just fine so 2499 01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:20,639 as far as i mean i don't know how 2500 01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:23,360 how disoriented she was 2501 01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:25,840 i just but i wouldn't say micro caesars 2502 01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:28,159 i didn't see anything like that 2503 01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:30,480 ruby asking has anjali ever approached 2504 01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:32,320 you with someone else from her line of 2505 01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:34,000 work and intel 2506 01:36:36,629 --> 01:36:35,520 she did make these threats that she 2507 01:36:38,790 --> 01:36:36,639 worked for the government so i guess 2508 01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:38,800 people are wondering if she approached 2509 01:36:41,830 --> 01:36:40,719 you with other parties from the 2510 01:36:44,229 --> 01:36:41,840 government 2511 01:36:46,070 --> 01:36:44,239 not not uh not as of yet but we've we've 2512 01:36:49,430 --> 01:36:46,080 gotten you know 2513 01:36:53,109 --> 01:36:49,440 somewhat that kind of threat from her 2514 01:36:56,790 --> 01:36:53,119 you know interesting and that in that 2515 01:37:02,310 --> 01:36:58,070 uh 2516 01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:02,320 a lot of people have suggested that this 2517 01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:03,520 whole thing is a government 2518 01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:07,280 psychological operation for some reason 2519 01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:09,360 mostly because of her her background so 2520 01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:11,840 do you think anjali is still a covert 2521 01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:15,920 government operative running a psyop 2522 01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:17,600 those thoughts have ran through our mind 2523 01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:20,400 we don't know [\h__\h] you know so who do 2524 01:37:24,149 --> 01:37:22,320 you who knows 2525 01:37:27,189 --> 01:37:24,159 i mean she's 2526 01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:27,199 she's she's something else i must say 2527 01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:28,880 and what you know whatever they're up to 2528 01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:30,560 they're up to it 2529 01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:33,280 mike gambley does wayne drape himself in 2530 01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:36,880 lavender when he doses people 2531 01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:39,040 no was it was anybody wearing purple 2532 01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:41,360 clothes that day that maybe explain her 2533 01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:43,840 seeing some purple i don't i don't get 2534 01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:46,239 how she's seen a purple being then 2535 01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:48,719 no there was no purple 2536 01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:50,480 no i don't drink nope 2537 01:37:54,550 --> 01:37:52,000 don't i don't i don't even dose people 2538 01:37:56,229 --> 01:37:54,560 anymore how about that 2539 01:37:57,830 --> 01:37:56,239 well look what happened the last time 2540 01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,840 you did it right 2541 01:38:01,590 --> 01:37:59,600 yeah yeah yeah i don't take this 2542 01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:01,600 somebody and they start seeing aliens 2543 01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:03,440 they went to the lincoln memorial and 2544 01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:05,040 they're having press conferences that's 2545 01:38:12,950 --> 01:38:10,709 all right and plan b is asking were 2546 01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:12,960 there any other drugs taken 2547 01:38:16,870 --> 01:38:14,400 not to my knowledge 2548 01:38:19,350 --> 01:38:16,880 we're a holistic place here so we're 2549 01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:19,360 only into natural 2550 01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:22,719 natural stuff so if anybody else had 2551 01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:25,840 drugs in their purse or 2552 01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:28,159 and you know i'm just 2553 01:38:32,950 --> 01:38:31,440 or be ourself whatever any kind of 2554 01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:32,960 yeah 2555 01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:35,199 if she was on any if she was on anything 2556 01:38:38,709 --> 01:38:36,880 else you weren't aware of her being 2557 01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:38,719 exactly right yeah we don't have any 2558 01:38:42,470 --> 01:38:40,480 pharmaceuticals here 2559 01:38:44,870 --> 01:38:42,480 and indiana indiana is asking do you 2560 01:38:48,790 --> 01:38:44,880 think anjali's experience was like 2561 01:38:54,950 --> 01:38:52,629 well that's that's a possibility um 2562 01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:54,960 i guess that's a possibility but her as 2563 01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:57,199 she was astro traveling her body was 2564 01:39:00,149 --> 01:38:59,280 walking with us and hanging out with us 2565 01:39:02,390 --> 01:39:00,159 so 2566 01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:02,400 if that's how astro travel works that's 2567 01:39:06,550 --> 01:39:03,280 cool 2568 01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:08,550 i can't wait to hang out with my people 2569 01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:09,360 and 2570 01:39:18,310 --> 01:39:14,800 let him know hey i wasn't even there 2571 01:39:20,070 --> 01:39:18,320 i was on another planet 2572 01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:20,080 yeah and there's a ship 2573 01:39:23,350 --> 01:39:21,920 and so let me know what happened what 2574 01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:23,360 the hell happened again last night 2575 01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:25,040 because uh my body was there but i 2576 01:39:28,070 --> 01:39:26,639 wasn't there that'd be pretty cool i 2577 01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:28,080 guess 2578 01:39:31,590 --> 01:39:29,920 you know connor brady with a very good 2579 01:39:33,669 --> 01:39:31,600 question because 2580 01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:33,679 some people have 2581 01:39:38,629 --> 01:39:36,080 said that uh anjali is basically 2582 01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:38,639 starting a cult and uh it's it's kind of 2583 01:39:42,070 --> 01:39:41,119 a scary cult too because it's it's what 2584 01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:42,080 a lot of 2585 01:39:46,709 --> 01:39:45,199 cult experts would call a doomsday cult 2586 01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:46,719 because she says like the world's going 2587 01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:49,920 to end in 2027 i think or something like 2588 01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:52,560 that and we have to get ready for it so 2589 01:39:56,950 --> 01:39:55,119 connor brady is asking does brian's 2590 01:39:59,830 --> 01:39:56,960 guru narrative is dangerous to those 2591 01:40:02,310 --> 01:39:59,840 with mental health issues 2592 01:40:04,229 --> 01:40:02,320 i i think it's very dangerous absolutely 2593 01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:04,239 very dangerous in fact we've talked 2594 01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:05,440 about that 2595 01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:07,119 and in fact 2596 01:40:11,350 --> 01:40:08,960 uh i guess that's what i'm more 2597 01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:11,360 concerned about with our own life 2598 01:40:15,109 --> 01:40:13,199 you know 2599 01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:15,119 is is maybe some of these people that 2600 01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:16,960 are not you know mentally because some 2601 01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:18,400 of the things that some of the i mean 2602 01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:19,760 look at you you've had death threats 2603 01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:21,440 over this [\h__\h] 2604 01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:23,040 you know so 2605 01:40:26,950 --> 01:40:24,719 um 2606 01:40:28,629 --> 01:40:26,960 yeah i know people people were pretty 2607 01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:28,639 people were so pissed off that that 2608 01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:30,719 expedition got canceled that they blamed 2609 01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:33,360 me for finding you but i didn't really 2610 01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:36,239 find you we found somebody else and it 2611 01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:38,560 was a whole big thing yeah 2612 01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:40,560 um and matt 2613 01:40:44,709 --> 01:40:42,320 dillon is asking did she have any 2614 01:40:46,629 --> 01:40:44,719 alcohol drinking before smoking or 2615 01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:46,639 cannabis is never good were you aware 2616 01:40:50,709 --> 01:40:48,239 that she was drinking either at the 2617 01:40:52,950 --> 01:40:50,719 coffee shop or at your home 2618 01:40:57,109 --> 01:40:52,960 i can't i don't rec i don't recall her 2619 01:40:59,109 --> 01:40:57,119 drinking i just don't recall that 2620 01:41:01,350 --> 01:40:59,119 um there were there only a couple of us 2621 01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:01,360 were heavy drinkers out the other couple 2622 01:41:06,229 --> 01:41:04,080 they were more of the drinkers you know 2623 01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:06,239 um i think i was having wine that day 2624 01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:10,790 but i couldn't i don't really get to do 2625 01:41:16,830 --> 01:41:12,800 that because it's sugar so that was you 2626 01:41:21,109 --> 01:41:19,270 uh i don't recall 2627 01:41:22,310 --> 01:41:21,119 so i don't want to answer that you know 2628 01:41:26,709 --> 01:41:22,320 this is a very 2629 01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:26,719 did you believe did you feel that 2630 01:41:31,590 --> 01:41:28,960 they're asking was anjali a spiritual 2631 01:41:34,310 --> 01:41:31,600 guru type when brian met her 2632 01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:34,320 or that that happened more after her 2633 01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:35,440 encounter 2634 01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:37,360 it was more of the after well i mean i 2635 01:41:41,109 --> 01:41:38,960 i've just been 2636 01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:41,119 learning about this guru stuff here just 2637 01:41:44,790 --> 01:41:43,360 recently since august since we've been 2638 01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:44,800 talking so 2639 01:41:49,109 --> 01:41:47,440 uh but no as far as the spiritual guru 2640 01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:49,119 type 2641 01:41:58,709 --> 01:41:56,550 you know i i i don't maybe spiritual i 2642 01:42:01,109 --> 01:41:58,719 suppose you know as far as a guru type 2643 01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:01,119 no i mean you know i um so she didn't 2644 01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:03,360 strike you like like a guru type when 2645 01:42:07,910 --> 01:42:05,679 you met her 2646 01:42:10,229 --> 01:42:07,920 not really not really she was interested 2647 01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,239 in aliens though so that was cool you 2648 01:42:13,830 --> 01:42:12,239 know 2649 01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:13,840 and the true believers the true 2650 01:42:19,109 --> 01:42:16,800 believers are here robert uh peloviro 2651 01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:19,119 says why not let anjali guide you to the 2652 01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:21,199 cave with stephen campion to prove the 2653 01:42:24,470 --> 01:42:23,760 cave's existence i'm totally down with 2654 01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:24,480 that 2655 01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:29,280 would be i would be passionate like 2656 01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:30,000 and 2657 01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:33,280 i would do it but if i flew halfway 2658 01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:34,880 across the country with a bag full of 2659 01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:36,480 cameras and [\h__\h] and then there was 2660 01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,080 nothing there i'd be a little upset 2661 01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:42,000 you're going to get upset but it'll be a 2662 01:42:47,189 --> 01:42:43,920 nice vacation though you know i've 2663 01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:47,199 always wanted to visit the area anytime 2664 01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:48,800 yeah and dimensionally just with a 2665 01:42:51,910 --> 01:42:50,320 comment saying 2666 01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:51,920 brian is super humble given the 2667 01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:53,280 circumstance 2668 01:42:56,709 --> 01:42:54,480 kudos 2669 01:43:02,629 --> 01:42:56,719 well thank you thank you i'm trying to 2670 01:43:07,189 --> 01:43:05,109 no he can't uh indiana indiana is saying 2671 01:43:09,109 --> 01:43:07,199 can brian come on as a guest on the true 2672 01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:09,119 secret interview with anjali tomorrow 2673 01:43:12,950 --> 01:43:11,040 she expressly 2674 01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:12,960 made me agree that there would be only 2675 01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:14,960 me and her so maybe 2676 01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:16,719 in the future i'll ask her tomorrow if 2677 01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:18,080 she'd be willing to do that in the 2678 01:43:21,990 --> 01:43:20,560 future i'd be happy to host that maybe 2679 01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:22,000 these two can hash it out and reach a 2680 01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:25,280 better understanding right sure 2681 01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:27,119 sure i mean you know maybe she'll change 2682 01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:28,639 your mind tomorrow on the show i'll be 2683 01:43:34,390 --> 01:43:30,880 watching i'll be right there i'll be 2684 01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:36,070 people want you to take what is this 2685 01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:37,920 somebody wants you to take your webcam 2686 01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:39,760 to the barn doors in the middle of your 2687 01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:42,000 house oh i guess because of the arch 2688 01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:43,119 thing 2689 01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:45,199 did she ever talk about a fake alien 2690 01:43:54,470 --> 01:43:50,550 uh no 2691 01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:57,189 yeah 2692 01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:59,669 we'll post pictures of the barn door 2693 01:44:02,149 --> 01:44:00,400 and 2694 01:44:04,229 --> 01:44:02,159 grant haywood is asking could the whole 2695 01:44:06,709 --> 01:44:04,239 thing be a psychological operation to 2696 01:44:10,550 --> 01:44:06,719 discredit experiencers or the topic in 2697 01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:11,830 um 2698 01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:15,360 i i suppose it could be 2699 01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:17,040 yeah and wayne's welcome to participate 2700 01:44:20,550 --> 01:44:19,119 in the chat but i did i'm always just so 2701 01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:20,560 everybody knows 2702 01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:22,960 once when a guest has certain conditions 2703 01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:25,600 to agree to the interview i i always am 2704 01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:27,440 a man of my word so 2705 01:44:32,950 --> 01:44:30,239 she specifically said no surprise guests 2706 01:44:35,750 --> 01:44:32,960 no panel members no co-hosts nobody else 2707 01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:35,760 just you and me stephen and i said okay 2708 01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:37,600 so i have to i have to honor that 2709 01:44:41,669 --> 01:44:39,600 agreement but i will certainly i promise 2710 01:44:44,550 --> 01:44:41,679 you all i will ask her to do 2711 01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:44,560 an additional show with with wayne and 2712 01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:46,560 her and then you know i think that would 2713 01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:49,679 be the next step you know because i 2714 01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:50,800 think what we're going to have here 2715 01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:52,880 brian is he said she said tonight 2716 01:44:56,950 --> 01:44:54,960 tonight as he said and tomorrow night 2717 01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:56,960 maybe she said and then we'll be right 2718 01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:59,040 where we started like 2719 01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:59,920 god 2720 01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:00,800 you know 2721 01:45:04,550 --> 01:45:02,560 this it's frustr some of these rabbit 2722 01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:04,560 holes are frustrating right 2723 01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:06,080 yeah 2724 01:45:10,070 --> 01:45:07,520 well the only the only thing that won't 2725 01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:10,080 be frustrating on this side is nothing's 2726 01:45:14,149 --> 01:45:12,719 going to change over here as far as what 2727 01:45:15,510 --> 01:45:14,159 happened 2728 01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:15,520 physically oh yeah 2729 01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:17,760 this is a good question 2730 01:45:24,870 --> 01:45:20,320 you know uh did you guys talk about 2731 01:45:27,830 --> 01:45:26,229 when you when she came back to your 2732 01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:27,840 house from the coffee i know that you 2733 01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:29,360 said you talked about aliens a little 2734 01:45:33,350 --> 01:45:31,600 bit at the coffee shop and so did she 2735 01:45:35,350 --> 01:45:33,360 but were you guys talking about aliens 2736 01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:35,360 when you were at your head i believe we 2737 01:45:39,669 --> 01:45:37,600 were i think we were talking about 2738 01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:39,679 we we probably were because we were 2739 01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:42,480 talking you know it was it was a subject 2740 01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:44,639 as far as the sightings 2741 01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:47,280 on the mountain in the 60s 2742 01:45:51,750 --> 01:45:50,239 of a book that we're all looking for 2743 01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:51,760 yeah 2744 01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:54,000 that was probably what that 2745 01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:55,760 so yes i would say we probably had a 2746 01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:57,119 little bit of talk like that but i don't 2747 01:46:01,270 --> 01:45:59,600 think it was too deep because 2748 01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:01,280 you know the other people that were with 2749 01:46:04,629 --> 01:46:02,960 us they weren't they're they're i don't 2750 01:46:05,669 --> 01:46:04,639 they're not much they weren't much into 2751 01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:05,679 that so 2752 01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:07,520 i can see it not getting 2753 01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:09,280 too deep you know 2754 01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:11,280 lord ludacris plaid with a kind generous 2755 01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:13,119 donation to the show says brian thank 2756 01:46:17,430 --> 01:46:15,679 you for coming forward i will keep you 2757 01:46:19,270 --> 01:46:17,440 in my thoughts and prayers for continued 2758 01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:19,280 recovery wellness and happiness great 2759 01:46:23,990 --> 01:46:21,440 conversation tonight 2760 01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:24,000 right on thank you thank you very much 2761 01:46:30,070 --> 01:46:25,840 joe is asking who brought up aliens 2762 01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,270 uh 2763 01:46:36,470 --> 01:46:35,109 you know i couldn't i couldn't answer 2764 01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:36,480 that joe 2765 01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:38,719 it was just a conversation about aliens 2766 01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:41,119 so i don't know who did 2767 01:46:46,470 --> 01:46:44,239 i don't you know i i i i did neglect to 2768 01:46:48,790 --> 01:46:46,480 ask you a few things i wanted to know 2769 01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:48,800 like how has this affected your wife and 2770 01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:50,800 your marriage like what does your wife 2771 01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:52,239 think of all this 2772 01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:54,480 my wife's been experiencing 2773 01:46:58,709 --> 01:46:56,880 she's been extremely extremely stressed 2774 01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:58,719 out as a matter of fact that's a lot why 2775 01:47:01,669 --> 01:47:00,719 i'm here 2776 01:47:02,950 --> 01:47:01,679 because 2777 01:47:04,070 --> 01:47:02,960 her she 2778 01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:04,080 she and 2779 01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:06,840 anjali had some words a few weeks ago 2780 01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:11,199 and and it was just getting stupid 2781 01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:18,229 threats or 2782 01:47:24,470 --> 01:47:21,520 bullying or manipulation 2783 01:47:27,109 --> 01:47:24,480 so now that that shit's occurring 2784 01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:27,119 i'm here here now here we are here we 2785 01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:28,560 are 2786 01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:30,239 you know 2787 01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:32,880 pissed off so now i'm pissed off 2788 01:47:36,790 --> 01:47:34,800 that's kind of where that is 2789 01:47:39,189 --> 01:47:36,800 on that one 2790 01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:39,199 grapefruit she's lost a lot of sleep 2791 01:47:42,229 --> 01:47:40,320 over this 2792 01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:42,239 i could imagine yeah 2793 01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:43,360 you're uh 2794 01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:45,280 all over the internet all of a sudden 2795 01:47:49,109 --> 01:47:47,199 grapefruit fizzies is asking would brian 2796 01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:49,119 be willing to describe his near-death 2797 01:47:54,070 --> 01:47:51,840 experience sure i would i'll do that 2798 01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:54,080 yeah earlier earlier you said that 2799 01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:55,440 that's not a 2800 01:47:58,709 --> 01:47:56,880 you don't really have a paranormal 2801 01:48:00,790 --> 01:47:58,719 experience i would consider that 2802 01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:00,800 definitely on the list 2803 01:48:04,950 --> 01:48:03,360 right it was it was pretty powerful for 2804 01:48:07,669 --> 01:48:04,960 sure 2805 01:48:11,590 --> 01:48:07,679 um yeah i would um i would rather 2806 01:48:13,910 --> 01:48:11,600 describe that you know on its own but um 2807 01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:13,920 it was amazing how about that i'll 2808 01:48:25,669 --> 01:48:24,310 uh absolutely amazing and 2809 01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:25,679 and i'm looking forward to doing that 2810 01:48:28,390 --> 01:48:26,639 again 2811 01:48:30,830 --> 01:48:28,400 someday 2812 01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:30,840 yeah hopefully only once though right 2813 01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:33,199 yeah yeah this is a 2814 01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:35,119 this is an interesting question because 2815 01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:38,080 i as i recall she basically said that at 2816 01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:40,480 the coffee shop you said do you want to 2817 01:48:44,830 --> 01:48:42,639 meet some aliens and then you took her 2818 01:48:46,709 --> 01:48:44,840 back to and told her there was an 2819 01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:46,719 alien 2820 01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:48,239 i don't recall saying that because i 2821 01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:49,840 wouldn't say that to anybody i wouldn't 2822 01:48:54,149 --> 01:48:52,400 [\h__\h] somebody to say hey come meet 2823 01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:54,159 some aliens when there's no aliens there 2824 01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:56,159 that's not my style 2825 01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:57,040 so 2826 01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:58,560 the only thing that was ever talked 2827 01:49:02,629 --> 01:49:00,480 about is the sightings on the mountain 2828 01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:02,639 in the 60s that's it 2829 01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:05,679 interesting and charlie weiser is is uh 2830 01:49:09,510 --> 01:49:07,520 i don't i'm not sure if you're aware but 2831 01:49:11,910 --> 01:49:09,520 anjali is is now claiming that she has 2832 01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:11,920 zoom calls that are going to contradict 2833 01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:14,480 what you're saying here tonight and that 2834 01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:17,040 she has recordings of so and that's okay 2835 01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:18,880 she can have if she has recorded zoom 2836 01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:21,199 calls of us like i said and i'll say it 2837 01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:23,119 straight up we have had conversations 2838 01:49:26,830 --> 01:49:25,440 and we did entertain this 2839 01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:26,840 for a 2840 01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:28,400 price 2841 01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:30,800 very honest with you oh so what so she's 2842 01:49:34,870 --> 01:49:33,040 got recordings of us um 2843 01:49:37,189 --> 01:49:34,880 she evidently she has some recordings 2844 01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:37,199 she doesn't want to release she's got 2845 01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:39,840 this big surprise she's going to release 2846 01:49:44,070 --> 01:49:42,400 recordings of us that we sent her 2847 01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:44,080 i'll just tell you right now anjali if 2848 01:49:47,830 --> 01:49:46,560 you re if you if you release recordings 2849 01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:47,840 of me 2850 01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:48,960 sending you 2851 01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:50,639 my land 2852 01:49:55,109 --> 01:49:53,440 then then you are i am gonna don't do 2853 01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:55,119 that you don't have my permission i'm 2854 01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:57,520 going to publicly say right now you do 2855 01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:59,760 not have my permission to share any 2856 01:50:03,910 --> 01:50:01,119 photos 2857 01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:03,920 that i have shared with you or any talks 2858 01:50:07,990 --> 01:50:05,520 that we have had 2859 01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:08,000 i'll make that clear 2860 01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:10,320 do not 2861 01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:13,679 send any pictures in public of our land 2862 01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:14,960 in any way 2863 01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:18,320 or our faces or our any you don't need 2864 01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:20,239 to do that 2865 01:50:23,270 --> 01:50:21,760 there's no reason for you to defend 2866 01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:23,280 yourself 2867 01:50:27,669 --> 01:50:25,679 with us 2868 01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:27,679 yeah i would hope that she would respect 2869 01:50:31,910 --> 01:50:30,000 your privacy because she's been 2870 01:50:35,430 --> 01:50:31,920 really vocal about doing everything to 2871 01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:35,440 protect your privacy for quite a while 2872 01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:37,840 so i i can't imagine why she would turn 2873 01:50:41,669 --> 01:50:39,920 around and do that now steve k says 2874 01:50:42,790 --> 01:50:41,679 brian bless you brother you were totally 2875 01:50:44,390 --> 01:50:42,800 bullied 2876 01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:44,400 uh 2877 01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:46,320 into all of this good vibes towards you 2878 01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:47,920 your health and well-being and thank you 2879 01:50:52,310 --> 01:50:50,239 steve k for your kindness and generosity 2880 01:50:54,390 --> 01:50:52,320 thank you steve appreciate it a lot of 2881 01:50:56,390 --> 01:50:54,400 people liking you tonight brian brian 2882 01:50:57,990 --> 01:50:56,400 should become part of the ufo community 2883 01:50:59,750 --> 01:50:58,000 he seems to be cool and funny and want 2884 01:51:02,550 --> 01:50:59,760 to hear him talk about aliens and share 2885 01:51:05,030 --> 01:51:02,560 his cannabis oil recipe seems to be good 2886 01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:05,040 strong stuff 2887 01:51:08,629 --> 01:51:07,119 well i think i will join this it sounds 2888 01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:08,639 fun 2889 01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:11,040 i'm a big advocate of cannabis uh as 2890 01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:13,840 medicine i i've uh partake myself i have 2891 01:51:18,550 --> 01:51:17,040 nerve damage in my paralyzed eye 2892 01:51:20,470 --> 01:51:18,560 i used to be the doctors would give me 2893 01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:20,480 all kinds of opioids 2894 01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:22,480 and that never really 2895 01:51:25,510 --> 01:51:24,000 did much for me other than make me 2896 01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:25,520 unable to function 2897 01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:27,040 cannabis uh 2898 01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:29,840 alleviates the pain but in my paralyzed 2899 01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:31,360 and dead nerves 2900 01:51:36,790 --> 01:51:34,400 and i know opiates and i can function 2901 01:51:38,709 --> 01:51:36,800 so you're a big supporter of of medical 2902 01:51:39,990 --> 01:51:38,719 cannabis and cannabis oil for cancer 2903 01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:40,000 treatment right it's been very 2904 01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:41,440 beneficial for you 2905 01:51:46,709 --> 01:51:43,440 changed my world 2906 01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:49,510 after the surgery i had a 13-hour cut on 2907 01:51:52,229 --> 01:51:50,800 my neck 2908 01:51:57,189 --> 01:51:52,239 uh 2909 01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:57,199 protocol was two rounds 2910 01:52:02,070 --> 01:51:58,560 but not the third because the third 2911 01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:02,080 would kill me they said so i i ate this 2912 01:52:05,350 --> 01:52:04,239 radiation pill 2913 01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:05,360 and it really 2914 01:52:08,950 --> 01:52:07,520 to this day i have issues from that pill 2915 01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:08,960 that was actually the last pill i've 2916 01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:10,719 ever eaten 2917 01:52:13,750 --> 01:52:12,239 um 2918 01:52:15,669 --> 01:52:13,760 that's why you know i haven't even had a 2919 01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:15,679 tylenol or an advil since then so that 2920 01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:17,920 was uh february 2921 01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:21,280 17 2014. 2922 01:52:27,030 --> 01:52:24,320 i got so sick i mean i literally i lost 2923 01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:27,040 about 100 pounds i i couldn't eat 2924 01:52:31,669 --> 01:52:28,960 i threw up every day for probably two 2925 01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:31,679 years and um 2926 01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:33,199 maybe less than that i don't know i'm 2927 01:52:36,790 --> 01:52:35,040 just i could be off on that but anyway 2928 01:52:38,310 --> 01:52:36,800 it was a long time and i did i just 2929 01:52:40,709 --> 01:52:38,320 couldn't eat 2930 01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:40,719 well a friend of mine 2931 01:52:45,350 --> 01:52:42,960 uh introduced me he said hey do you 2932 01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:45,360 you know what uh rick simpson oil is and 2933 01:52:49,589 --> 01:52:47,520 i and i had no idea i said that's the 2934 01:52:51,510 --> 01:52:49,599 oil that's the oil that somebody 2935 01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:51,520 mentioned to me that said it's super 2936 01:52:55,669 --> 01:52:54,080 super strong and concentrated and would 2937 01:52:57,430 --> 01:52:55,679 make you almost feel like you're having 2938 01:52:58,310 --> 01:52:57,440 an out of body experience if you take it 2939 01:53:01,669 --> 01:52:58,320 too 2940 01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:03,589 um 2941 01:53:09,350 --> 01:53:06,239 just taking it in in mild doses micro 2942 01:53:12,550 --> 01:53:09,360 doses does wonders for people um 2943 01:53:14,470 --> 01:53:12,560 i'm cancer patients of stage four 2944 01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:14,480 or all cancer patients are recommended 2945 01:53:18,229 --> 01:53:16,800 to do this at the cancer center that we 2946 01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:18,239 go to so 2947 01:53:22,229 --> 01:53:20,320 um i've been doing this ever since the 2948 01:53:25,350 --> 01:53:22,239 day the day that i was introduced to 2949 01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:25,360 this i was able to eat a plate of food 2950 01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:27,840 i couldn't eat i couldn't eat i had to 2951 01:53:31,109 --> 01:53:28,719 force 2952 01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:31,119 food down me and i hated it 2953 01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:33,520 but but when this oil came into my life 2954 01:53:37,109 --> 01:53:36,080 man oh i was i was thrashed in the 2955 01:53:39,669 --> 01:53:37,119 kitchen 2956 01:53:41,669 --> 01:53:39,679 you know so 2957 01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:41,679 it's it's it's i've seen it do a lot of 2958 01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:43,360 great things for other people as well 2959 01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:46,239 and in a lot of different circumstances 2960 01:53:49,430 --> 01:53:47,920 i'm a firm believer 2961 01:53:50,390 --> 01:53:49,440 i think the whole world should be on it 2962 01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:50,400 myself 2963 01:53:56,390 --> 01:53:51,760 i think 2964 01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:56,400 they would get rid of their it would it 2965 01:53:59,430 --> 01:53:57,920 would it would take it would take a lot 2966 01:54:02,070 --> 01:53:59,440 of their ailments away 2967 01:54:03,669 --> 01:54:02,080 if they figured out their dose to take 2968 01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:03,679 you know that it wouldn't hurt you know 2969 01:54:07,910 --> 01:54:05,760 not too much like i probably overdid 2970 01:54:10,229 --> 01:54:07,920 anjali that night like because that was 2971 01:54:14,470 --> 01:54:10,239 always a bad habit of mine is i'd give 2972 01:54:18,470 --> 01:54:15,830 plan b that's what i'm saying that 2973 01:54:19,669 --> 01:54:18,480 people are so uh focused on the details 2974 01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:19,679 of the story 2975 01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:22,159 and part of anjali's story is that at 2976 01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:24,400 your house was her 2977 01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:26,800 you and your wife and another couple and 2978 01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:28,560 i guess people want to confirm that that 2979 01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:30,800 part of her story that's it 2980 01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:32,400 so there's five 2981 01:54:35,109 --> 01:54:33,840 five of you 2982 01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:35,119 so there you go how many people were at 2983 01:54:39,430 --> 01:54:37,360 the house five just as angeli had 2984 01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:39,440 described 2985 01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:41,520 have you uh did you know that other 2986 01:54:45,669 --> 01:54:43,520 couple and are they aware of this whole 2987 01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:45,679 internet story 2988 01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:47,760 we haven't we kind of lost contact with 2989 01:54:52,870 --> 01:54:49,360 them they moved out of state and we just 2990 01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:52,880 haven't really kept in touch so we i 2991 01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:56,080 do i don't know if they know or not 2992 01:55:00,550 --> 01:54:58,239 yeah 2993 01:55:03,189 --> 01:55:00,560 i i selfishly was thinking if you still 2994 01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:03,199 knew them i would call them too because 2995 01:55:07,430 --> 01:55:05,760 you know if if four of the five of you 2996 01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:07,440 don't remember the aliens that were 2997 01:55:11,990 --> 01:55:10,000 there that night that you know 2998 01:55:14,790 --> 01:55:12,000 not that i not that i need more 2999 01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:14,800 convincing though brian but yeah 3000 01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:16,320 i'm sure people are gonna ask me are you 3001 01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:18,400 gonna interview the other people too 3002 01:55:23,830 --> 01:55:22,310 i guess i guess you could say we had a 3003 01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:23,840 mild falling out because we haven't 3004 01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:25,599 heard from them so 3005 01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:27,520 um i don't really know what to say you 3006 01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:29,360 know i'm not gonna go hound on somebody 3007 01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:31,280 if they're not gonna return but 3008 01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:32,960 those people to the best of your 3009 01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:34,960 recollection that other couple 3010 01:55:38,629 --> 01:55:37,040 didn't see aliens or have an alien 3011 01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:38,639 experience or 3012 01:55:41,990 --> 01:55:40,239 anything like that that night right 3013 01:55:43,189 --> 01:55:42,000 right of course not no they left this 3014 01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:43,199 song 3015 01:55:47,589 --> 01:55:45,040 yeah just anjali i mean they left on a 3016 01:55:50,229 --> 01:55:47,599 normal night they took off and 3017 01:55:52,709 --> 01:55:50,239 you know just it was just a 3018 01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:52,719 simple evening you know 3019 01:55:55,990 --> 01:55:54,560 so dad no there was nothing there was no 3020 01:55:56,950 --> 01:55:56,000 like i said there was no none of this 3021 01:56:02,550 --> 01:55:56,960 talk 3022 01:56:04,629 --> 01:56:02,560 story was until last august 3023 01:56:07,669 --> 01:56:04,639 but we even knew anything about this 3024 01:56:12,470 --> 01:56:09,589 i guess i guess one of the one of the 3025 01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:12,480 last things i would like to ask you is 3026 01:56:15,430 --> 01:56:14,400 because everybody is speculating 3027 01:56:21,270 --> 01:56:15,440 on her 3028 01:56:22,629 --> 01:56:21,280 doing this is she after money fame 3029 01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:22,639 power 3030 01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:24,800 is she looking for a movie deal a 3031 01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:26,400 television deal 3032 01:56:30,709 --> 01:56:28,560 what what do you think her motivation is 3033 01:56:33,189 --> 01:56:30,719 for all of this 3034 01:56:34,629 --> 01:56:33,199 story this entire thing and how much it 3035 01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:34,639 has blown up what do you think her 3036 01:56:38,229 --> 01:56:36,480 motives are for doing all of this i 3037 01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:38,239 really i really don't know because she 3038 01:56:41,830 --> 01:56:39,679 has made it clear that she doesn't want 3039 01:56:45,510 --> 01:56:41,840 money 3040 01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:45,520 the table you know like for instance 3041 01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:48,239 when i said 10 million dollars 3042 01:56:53,270 --> 01:56:51,920 she said oh well let's just make it 20. 3043 01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:53,280 and we won't 3044 01:56:57,910 --> 01:56:55,440 we won't you know take anything less 3045 01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:57,920 than 15. it's like oh okay well hey 3046 01:57:01,830 --> 01:56:59,599 great you know of course of course i'm 3047 01:57:03,510 --> 01:57:01,840 going to entertain that 3048 01:57:05,030 --> 01:57:03,520 but did you think that was just talk or 3049 01:57:07,030 --> 01:57:05,040 that she actually had access to that 3050 01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:07,040 kind of funding i didn't know what to 3051 01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:08,719 think so of course i'm going to 3052 01:57:15,669 --> 01:57:11,440 entertain it right 3053 01:57:18,629 --> 01:57:15,679 wow and steve k is asking uh 3054 01:57:20,950 --> 01:57:18,639 oh no wait uh wrong question 3055 01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:20,960 i'm sorry uh no no is asking brian have 3056 01:57:24,870 --> 01:57:23,599 you ever suspected or dreamt of alien 3057 01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:24,880 abductions 3058 01:57:27,189 --> 01:57:26,159 nope 3059 01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:27,199 i know 3060 01:57:31,669 --> 01:57:29,760 not even after watching hours of shows 3061 01:57:33,350 --> 01:57:31,679 before i went to bed 3062 01:57:35,109 --> 01:57:33,360 yeah and somebody is asking me to ask 3063 01:57:37,510 --> 01:57:35,119 you about bigelow is it true that she 3064 01:57:39,750 --> 01:57:37,520 mentioned bigelow might step in and fund 3065 01:57:42,149 --> 01:57:39,760 this whole adventure she said she said 3066 01:57:43,990 --> 01:57:42,159 bigelow aerospace wanted to step in and 3067 01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:44,000 buy this land yes 3068 01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:45,760 well i can contact them and see if 3069 01:57:54,950 --> 01:57:48,080 that's accurate part of her story or or 3070 01:57:58,229 --> 01:57:56,070 yeah 3071 01:57:59,589 --> 01:57:58,239 so 3072 01:58:01,189 --> 01:57:59,599 what do you think is next for you you're 3073 01:58:03,350 --> 01:58:01,199 gonna you're gonna you're gonna listen 3074 01:58:06,550 --> 01:58:03,360 to what she has to say tomorrow 3075 01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:06,560 of course i can't wait 3076 01:58:10,870 --> 01:58:09,119 oh she you know that's me in you know or 3077 01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:10,880 you know or has good things to say you 3078 01:58:16,390 --> 01:58:13,760 know i'm like i said i'm not trying to 3079 01:58:17,510 --> 01:58:16,400 come here and be an enemy or 3080 01:58:20,629 --> 01:58:17,520 or you know 3081 01:58:22,550 --> 01:58:20,639 slander her or make her look bad in any 3082 01:58:25,750 --> 01:58:22,560 way you know i'm just basically coming 3083 01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:25,760 in here to say here's the deal 3084 01:58:30,950 --> 01:58:28,480 this is this is the wayne 3085 01:58:33,589 --> 01:58:30,960 and everybody 3086 01:58:36,070 --> 01:58:33,599 stop looking for wayne and trisha 3087 01:58:38,390 --> 01:58:36,080 and uh no no actually actually if you 3088 01:58:40,149 --> 01:58:38,400 could wait one moment one moment i'm go 3089 01:58:42,950 --> 01:58:40,159 this is what i'm gonna ask you to do and 3090 01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:42,960 this is important because it seems to me 3091 01:58:45,589 --> 01:58:44,320 like you two have been going back and 3092 01:58:47,830 --> 01:58:45,599 forth you and your wife and her have 3093 01:58:49,430 --> 01:58:47,840 been going back and forth and and you 3094 01:58:51,109 --> 01:58:49,440 were very adamant that you want to come 3095 01:58:53,189 --> 01:58:51,119 here and communicate some things 3096 01:58:55,510 --> 01:58:53,199 directly to her tonight so i'm going to 3097 01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:55,520 solo you and and if you could say 3098 01:58:58,950 --> 01:58:57,199 anything to her about this whole 3099 01:59:01,990 --> 01:58:58,960 situation she put you and your family 3100 01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:02,000 through about the future of of whatever 3101 01:59:05,990 --> 01:59:03,599 she's trying to do 3102 01:59:07,830 --> 01:59:06,000 i would like you to just talk directly 3103 01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:07,840 to her 3104 01:59:11,990 --> 01:59:09,360 what would you like to communicate to 3105 01:59:18,470 --> 01:59:15,589 um anjali i i guess 3106 01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:18,480 all i can say is uh whatever journey 3107 01:59:23,350 --> 01:59:21,760 you're you're doing and you're on 3108 01:59:25,750 --> 01:59:23,360 is stay on it 3109 01:59:30,470 --> 01:59:25,760 and and and you know 3110 01:59:34,629 --> 01:59:32,390 but you just you know uh there's no 3111 01:59:37,510 --> 01:59:34,639 reason to be dragging us into it and and 3112 01:59:40,149 --> 01:59:37,520 doing this to our life so 3113 01:59:41,990 --> 01:59:40,159 uh please 3114 01:59:44,709 --> 01:59:42,000 just 3115 01:59:46,870 --> 01:59:44,719 respect that 3116 01:59:50,229 --> 01:59:46,880 and that's that that would be it that 3117 01:59:52,870 --> 01:59:50,239 that'd be what i would like to say 3118 01:59:55,990 --> 01:59:52,880 excellent and we're just uh boy time 3119 01:59:58,229 --> 01:59:56,000 flies i i did we're just hitting two 3120 02:00:00,310 --> 01:59:58,239 hours so i guess we're going to wrap 3121 02:00:03,030 --> 02:00:00,320 things up here and you've never done one 3122 02:00:04,390 --> 02:00:03,040 of these interviews before so uh 3123 02:00:06,470 --> 02:00:04,400 what's going to happen is i'm going to 3124 02:00:11,350 --> 02:00:06,480 throw you out 3125 02:00:13,430 --> 02:00:11,360 then i'm going to do a quick wrap 3126 02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:13,440 but you listen i want you to i want to 3127 02:00:17,750 --> 02:00:16,000 tell you two things number one i i i 3128 02:00:19,750 --> 02:00:17,760 can't tell you how much i appreciate you 3129 02:00:22,149 --> 02:00:19,760 coming here and doing this and bringing 3130 02:00:24,470 --> 02:00:22,159 us the other side of the story well 3131 02:00:26,709 --> 02:00:24,480 really three things and number two is 3132 02:00:28,310 --> 02:00:26,719 um you talked about being respectful 3133 02:00:29,830 --> 02:00:28,320 towards her and not 3134 02:00:32,709 --> 02:00:29,840 wanting to beat her up or wishing her 3135 02:00:35,589 --> 02:00:32,719 any ill will i i applaud you for 3136 02:00:37,189 --> 02:00:35,599 you know how you've handled this because 3137 02:00:38,790 --> 02:00:37,199 one can understand that some people 3138 02:00:40,790 --> 02:00:38,800 would get so pissed off that they would 3139 02:00:42,950 --> 02:00:40,800 go scorched earth on her creating this 3140 02:00:45,030 --> 02:00:42,960 much drama and tension and anxiety in 3141 02:00:46,950 --> 02:00:45,040 your life you've handled it incredibly 3142 02:00:48,550 --> 02:00:46,960 well and the third thing i want you to 3143 02:00:50,390 --> 02:00:48,560 know is that there's always an open door 3144 02:00:52,390 --> 02:00:50,400 here you're always welcome to come back 3145 02:00:55,589 --> 02:00:52,400 we can talk about something else like 3146 02:00:57,189 --> 02:00:55,599 your mde experience or something else 3147 02:01:01,270 --> 02:00:57,199 well thank you that's great i will come 3148 02:01:05,510 --> 02:01:03,030 well we always need great guests here 3149 02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:05,520 and and uh now you're famous if nothing 3150 02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:07,199 else you made the internet you are 3151 02:01:12,390 --> 02:01:09,770 internet famous wayne i love it 3152 02:01:13,430 --> 02:01:12,400 [Laughter] 3153 02:01:15,589 --> 02:01:13,440 okay 3154 02:01:17,270 --> 02:01:15,599 all right so i listen uh and when i 3155 02:01:19,189 --> 02:01:17,280 throw you out of here you can just close 3156 02:01:21,589 --> 02:01:19,199 down your browser or whatever it won't 3157 02:01:23,510 --> 02:01:21,599 affect me just so you know so i'm going 3158 02:01:25,430 --> 02:01:23,520 to bounce you on out of here thank you 3159 02:01:27,109 --> 02:01:25,440 very much for your participation 3160 02:01:29,350 --> 02:01:27,119 everybody really wanted to hear from you 3161 02:01:32,310 --> 02:01:29,360 tonight i'm so glad that we got this 3162 02:01:34,390 --> 02:01:32,320 in the history books thank you again 3163 02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:34,400 thank your wife for me as well 3164 02:01:41,589 --> 02:01:40,149 very lucky man all right you have a 3165 02:01:42,870 --> 02:01:41,599 great night 3166 02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:42,880 thank you brian 3167 02:01:47,189 --> 02:01:45,040 all right friends there we have it uh 3168 02:01:48,229 --> 02:01:47,199 what an incredible journey this has been 3169 02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:48,239 so far 3170 02:01:53,830 --> 02:01:51,599 and uh now i'm certain that people may 3171 02:01:56,870 --> 02:01:53,840 feel differently about anjali and her 3172 02:01:59,510 --> 02:01:56,880 stories of alien contact having the 3173 02:02:02,310 --> 02:01:59,520 benefit of hearing from a witness to the 3174 02:02:06,790 --> 02:02:02,320 events that night whose story 3175 02:02:09,589 --> 02:02:06,800 uh largely incredibly contradicts 3176 02:02:11,830 --> 02:02:09,599 anjalee's story but 3177 02:02:13,270 --> 02:02:11,840 the story isn't over yet friends and 3178 02:02:15,589 --> 02:02:13,280 tomorrow night 3179 02:02:17,990 --> 02:02:15,599 i suppose anjali will 3180 02:02:19,430 --> 02:02:18,000 get her chance to respond to what wayne 3181 02:02:22,390 --> 02:02:19,440 had to say 3182 02:02:24,870 --> 02:02:22,400 and uh that will be tomorrow evening at 3183 02:02:27,510 --> 02:02:24,880 7 pm eastern standard time 3184 02:02:30,070 --> 02:02:27,520 and you are almost welcome to come here 3185 02:02:32,709 --> 02:02:30,080 and hear 3186 02:02:34,709 --> 02:02:32,719 from her about these new and latest 3187 02:02:35,990 --> 02:02:34,719 developments i want to thank each and 3188 02:02:38,070 --> 02:02:36,000 every one of you for joining us i 3189 02:02:38,950 --> 02:02:38,080 especially want to thank my 3190 02:02:41,830 --> 02:02:38,960 uh 3191 02:02:45,030 --> 02:02:41,840 guest tonight 3192 02:02:46,950 --> 02:02:45,040 brian and thank his wife for uh loaning 3193 02:02:49,270 --> 02:02:46,960 him to us for a little while 3194 02:02:50,870 --> 02:02:49,280 it's been my pleasure to bring you uh 3195 02:02:52,790 --> 02:02:50,880 this important new development in the 3196 02:02:55,669 --> 02:02:52,800 story and we're gonna continue to follow 3197 02:02:57,750 --> 02:02:55,679 this story wherever it goes 3198 02:03:00,070 --> 02:02:57,760 uh until next time friends my name is 3199 02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:00,080 stephen cambion good night and god bless 3200 02:03:04,170 --> 02:04:15,030 [Music] 3201 02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:20,140 so 3202 02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:23,140 [Music] 3203 02:04:59,010 --> 02:04:24,410 [Applause]